Grand Theft Auto IV
|Grand Theft Auto IV|
Developers: Rockstar North (PlayStation 3),
Rockstar Toronto (Windows)
This game has unused animations.
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What does the American dream mean today?
...not exactly what it meant during development...
- 1 Sub-Pages
- 2 BuildLog.htm
- 3 Unused Vehicles
- 4 Unused Test Maps
- 5 Unused Characters
- 6 Filename Oddities
- 7 Scrapped Weapons
- 8 Unused Player Features
- 9 Scrapped Radio Songs
- 10 Unused Vehicle Handling Data
- 11 Scrapped Vehicle Components
- 12 Unfinished Weather
- 13 Unused Animations
- 14 Regional Differences
- 15 Revisional Differences
- 16 Anti-Piracy
| Cut DLC Content|
The side of DLC you never knew you wanted to see.
| Unused Mission-Related Text and Audio|
"Yokel, fatty Roman's cousin. I have some extra business for you to take care of..."
| Unused Audio|
The noisy side of Liberty City.
| Unused Textures|
The hidden side of Liberty City.
| Unused Models|
The OTHER hidden side of Liberty City.
| Unused Text|
The textual side of Liberty City.
| Development Oversights|
The side of Liberty City as seen on TV.
File: GTAIV_(Windows)-BuildLog.zip (7 KB) (info)
A shader compiler log, along with batch commands, can be found in the common\shaders directory in the Windows version.
Exclusively in the Windows port, The Angel, Daemon, Diabolus, Hexer, Lycan, Nightblade, Revenant and Wolfsbane chopper bikes all have their models and textures present in the base game, despite not being finished until The Lost and Damned. They can be used as normal bikes by modding.
Unused Test Maps
In the Windows version, there are some test maps left in the game's files called CJ_Test and AnimViewer While another unused test map named InteriorTest is listed inside of the game's code, it won't load as it doesn't have the proper files in the data.
A bus driver. Buses are never seen being driven around on the streets by NPCs, therefore this character goes unused. It is possible that bus drivers were supposed to operate the buses at one point in development.
A male worker from the Rockstar Cafe. This worker goes unused as the Rockstar Cafe was renamed to the Superstar Cafe in the final version of the game.
Another unused worker, this time from the Well Stacked Pizza Co., which does not have any operational stores in the town.
In the game's files, certain locations, radio stations, and vehicles are internally named/referenced differently to what actually appears in-game.
In the .gxt files, Beechwood City is referred to as Grayfords.
In the audio files, the radio stations following different titles can be found:
Tuff Gong Radio is listed as Babylon.
The Beat 102.7 is listed as Beat 95.
- The handling.dat file and some audio files refer to the Freeway as Bobber.
- The model file for the Contender is named E109.
- In the .gxt files, Roman's Taxi is referred to Albany.
There are some scrapped weapons from earlier in development that didn't quite make it to the final process.
An entry for a flamethrower exists in WeaponInfo.xml, but only the title "FTHROWER" remains, with no extra data to make it playable.
In the files, the pool cue from the mini-games was supposed to be a weapon but it ended up being scrapped for unknown reasons.
It can be bought back as a normal weapon via modifications as it has data, but it is simply not obtainable as such under normal circumstances.
<weapon type="POOLCUE"> <data slot="MELEE" firetype="MELEE" damagetype="MELEE" group="MELEE_WOOD" targetrange="10.0" weaponrange="1.6"> <damage base="1" networkplayermod="1.0" networkpedmod="1.0"/> <pickup regentime="120000"/> <controller> <rumble duration="60" intensity="0.23"/> </controller> <flags> <flag>CAN_AIM</flag> <flag>MELEE_CLUB</flag> <flag>ARMOUR_PENETRATING</flag> </flags> </data> <assets model="w_cue"/> </weapon>
When the pool cue is selected, it functions like the baseball bat in terms of attack animations. Internally, the pool cue does have a corresponding HUD icon, although it is not seen in-game when the item is equipped. The unused HUD icon is very basic and possibly a simple-styled placeholder as it's inconsistent with the style of all the used HUD icons. This could indicate that the ability to use the pool cue as a weapon was scrapped somewhat early on in development.
However, a shorter, usable broken pool cue was later implemented in The Lost and Damned.
There are references to the nightstick in common/data/default.ide:
The lines include:
w_nstick, w_nstick, null, 1, 50, 0 w_nstick, 0, CM_WEAPONS_NIGHTSTICK
Unused Player Features
Some unused elements remain in the game's files.
Strangely enough, while these gloves for Niko were heavily featured in promotional artwork, screenshots, and trailers from either before or after release, they can never be found in-game. They are present in the game's data though and can be applied with modifications.
Put an image of the other haircut.
There are two scrapped haircut designs in the game: one is designed to resemble helmet-hair (which is how Niko originally appeared in 2007 pre-release footage), and the other a buzz cut. Like the gloves, these still exist in the data and can be used with modifications.
Scrapped Radio Songs
Add the text strings.
American.gxt lists 4 additional songs intended for Liberty Rock Radio, Radio Broker, and The Vibe. It's possible that Rockstar wasn't able to obtain permission to use these songs.
Liberty Rock Radio 97.8
- The Rolling Stones - "Fingerprint File"
- The Virgins - "One Week of Danger"
- Celebration - "Fly the Fly (Holy Fuck Remix)"
The Vibe 98.8
- Cassie - "Me & U"
Me & U was possibly cut because it appeared in Saints Row 2, which released in the same year. A song from that station conversely appeared in Grand Theft Auto V on the Non-Stop-Pop FM station.
Unused Vehicle Handling Data
Confirm if these are just leftovers from previous GTAs.
Handling strings for vehicles that don't appear in the actual game.
This is a driveable big plane from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.
ANDROM 50000.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 1 0.30 1.0 160.0 0.4 0.60 0.7 35.0 0.65 0.60 8.0 0.10 0.5 0.4 0.2 0.2 0.50 -0.20 0.0 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.8 1.5 0.0 52000 2004000 400000 0
An old favorite debuted from Grand Theft Auto III.
DODO 5000.0 10.0 75 0.0 0.3 0.0 0.0 1 0.30 1.0 160.0 0.4 0.60 0.7 35.0 0.65 0.60 8.0 0.10 0.5 0.5 0.15 0.2 0.50 -0.05 0.0 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.8 1.5 0.0 45000 4000000 400000 13
Add the handling data.
All that remains is its handling data. Possibly, it was some type of military aircraft.
Scrapped Vehicle Components
Alternate Packer Ramp
A different, unused ramp component for the Packer vehicle exists and can be spawned in-game using modifications. Unlike the other ramp which is seen in-game, this ramp extends lower down and is attached to the rear of the vehicle, as opposed to on top of it.
Despite it looking visually normal, the collision detection for the ramp does not match its physical appearance. The solid parts of the ramp object are significantly higher up than the object itself. The gap in-between both ramp planks is also erroneously solid. Because of the wrongly raised collision detection, when driving the vehicle with this component attached, the underside of the physical ramp object does not collide with elements such as bumpy terrain. (Uneven roads, sand, grass verges, and so on.)
Due to the collision detection oddities, it is quite difficult to drive other vehicles up the ramp. The fact that the collision detection is not in line properly with the object, and is solid in the ramp plank gaps, may suggest that this component's usage was scrapped somewhat early on in development.
In common\data\Ambient.dat, there is a bit known as >IsSnowing. This could mean snow was a weather condition, but it's now only seen as an unused scenario for pedestrian behavior.
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Ice Cream Animations
A plank and the animation can be found within the game's files and would have been carried by dockworkers at East Hook. While unused now, workers can be seen holding the plank in the first trailer.
There is an unused animation for playing pinball found in anim.img.
Check the Japanese version. EFLC has cutscene changes.
Australian Console Release
When the game was still in development, and out of paranoia from the developers to avoid delaying the game due to the lack of an 18+ rating on the Australian classification board, Rockstar decided to produce and submit an edited version of the game to make it on time and get an MA15+ rating. Later, after the PC version was submitted and then released uncut in Australia with the same rating, the PS3/Xbox 360 versions received a title update which undid all the changes done to the game and the later-released DLC episodes were also uncut:
- After picking up prostitutes and going somewhere isolated, normally one would pick from three services with a differing price ($20, $50, and $70) to then enjoy the action. In the Australian version, it automatically chooses the most expensive option, and they will start doing it without even asking us for confirmation ala 3D era GTA titles, the implementation of this cut is noticeably flawed as making short stops while trying to park a vehicle can make the player lose money multiple times since the game gets confused on when to initiate the script. Also, when the girl does her job, the Australian version removes the ability to freely move the camera and instead sets it down and behind the vehicle in a similar style to the 3D era games minus the ability to rotate the camera, and while this doesn't let the player see the inside, the player can freely move the camera by the use of a bug and it reveals also that unlike the uncut version, the animations that Niko and the ladies do inside the vehicle have been disabled. Sheesh.
Some of the game's blood effects were removed but others like splatter and making blood tire tracks are untouched:
- After killing NPCs, no blood pools spill from them in the Australian version.
- On the Australian version, the ability to make bloody footprints on the surface by stepping on the blood of the dead peds was cut.
- Normally when getting injured by bullets, Niko and the NPCs would get light blood patches on the area of their bodies that they got shot, in the Australian versions, they remain clean no matter how much they get shot.
Later releases of the game change Maxwell Caddy's name in the police database to Maxwell Caughlin.
A patch on April 26, 2018, for some versions (not including disc based versions for PlayStation 3 and possibly Xbox 360), removed and added some songs that can be heard on the radio, due to song-licensing expiration issues. While Electro-Choc, Fusion, JNR, Massive B, and Tuff Gong were completely untouched, Vladivostok FM had almost all the songs cut out, except for Liberty City: The Invasion, by Seryoga.
The following new songs are added to Vladivostok FM.
- Aleksey Bolshoy - "Ya Nenavizhu Karaoke"
- Seryoga - "Mon Ami (ft. Maks Lorens)"
- Seryoga - "Dobav' Skorost"
- Seryoga - "Chiki"
- Delice - "Goryacheye Leto"
- Zhenya Fokin - "Noch'ju"
- Kievelektro - "Gulyaj, Slavyane!! (ft. Alyona Vinnitskaya)"
- Riffmaster - "Begu (Rancho Song)"
- Riffmaster - "Riffmaster Tony"
- Ayvengo - "Underground"
- Ayvengo - "Reprezenty"
The cut songs from other stations are:
- The Smashing Pumpkins - "1979" (1995) (Liberty Rock Radio)
- Stevie Nicks - "Edge of Seventeen" (1981) (Liberty Rock Radio)
- Electric Light Orchestra - "Evil Woman" (1975) (Liberty Rock Radio)
- David Bowie - "Fascination" (1975) (Liberty Rock Radio)
- Black Sabbath - "Heaven and Hell" (1980) (Liberty Rock Radio)
- Cro-Mags - "It's the Limit" (1985) (Liberty City Hardcore)
- Leeway - "Enforcer" (1988) (Liberty City Hardcore)
- Tamiko Jones - "Can't Live Without Your Love" (1979) (K109 The Studio)
- Terry Riley - "A Rainbow in Curved Air" (1969) (The Journey)
- Michael Shrieve - "Communique: 'Approach Spiral'" (1984) (The Journey)
- The Prairie Cartel - "Homicide" (2008) (Radio Broker)
- Ralph Myerz - "The Teacher" (2006) (Radio Broker)
- Gil Scott-Heron - "Home Is Where the Hatred Is" (1971) (IF99 International Funk)
- Angel y Khriz - "Ven Báilalo" (2004) (San Juan Sounds)
- Mtume - "C.O.D. (I'll Deliver)" (1984) (The Vibe 98.8)
- Fat Joe (feat. Lil Wayne) - "Crackhouse" (2008) (The Beat 102.7)
- Papoose - "Stylin'" (2008) (The Beat 102.7)
- Brand Nubian - "All for One" (1990) (The Classics)
- Marley Marl feat. Craig G - "Droppin' Science" (1988) (The Classics)
The change also carried on to Episodes From Liberty City.
An array of anti-crack protections are present in the PC version. If the game detects that the SecuROM copy protection has been tampered with, then a number of after-effects trigger two or three minutes after entering the game:
- The camera permanently activates a stronger version of the disorienting zoom and wobbling that normally occurs when Niko is out drunk with his dirtbag friends, so be ready to have a headache. There is a trick in-game to disable it, however.
- Any vehicle you enter, except for helicopters, has its accelerator permanently held down and the ability to drive in reverse removed, making navigation considerably difficult (even without taking into account the camera or vehicle fragility).
- Any vehicle will have its engine health immediately reduced from 1000 to 100 as soon as the player enters it, putting it in the belching-black-smoke state (and one fender-bender away from setting ablaze). The vehicles can be fixed by going to a Pay N' Spray... however, due to the inability to reverse, you won't be able to get it out and keep using it if you parked it forward!
- If the player gets a vehicle backward on the garages' interiors by drifting, you'll only find out that they have been also modified to not close and repair your vehicle if it's facing the exit. Talk about bad service.
In addition, some specific mission scripts have their own anti-piracy measures to mess with crackers that somehow defeated the previous tricks:
- In Clean Getaway, the mission gets stuck in the sequence where Niko locks the car doors after entering the Blista Compact and so the phone call to Vlad after taking Jimmy's car doesn't trigger, and calling Vlad's number won't work either as he won't answer, leaving the player to follow the originally-prescribed route to a garage that doesn't open. To add insult to injury, if you get out of the car, you're locked out and can't get back in!
- In Uncle Vlad, the cutscene after killing Vlad is replaced with an endless loading screen.
- You are unable to use computers. Attempting to use one will just make the "Press (button) to use the computer" prompt reappear. This renders several missions (Logging On, Out of the Closet, Wrong is Right, Final Interview and I'll Take Her) unwinnable and leaves any other content available through them inaccessible.
- Similar to above, attempting to use police computers will just make the prompt disappear and nothing will happen. This also renders multiple missions (Search and Delete, Portrait of a Killer, and Smackdown) unfinishable and all the Vigilante odd jobs locked out.
- In No. 1, the Comet you have to pick up before entering the race is permanently locked and un-stealable.
- In Three Leaf Clover, the bank's front doors don't open after emptying the vault, blocking progression.
- In Hating the Haters, Bernie's distance parameters are messed up, making him perpetually unhappy with how close or far away Niko is shadowing him. This inevitably results in the mission's failure after a certain point.
- In A Dish Served Cold, the "Get Off The Ship" objective won't trigger as the mission script purposefully breaks when the player reaches the ship's kitchen area, which makes it impossible to trigger the mission's completion.
Episodes from Liberty City
The DLC packs kept fighting the good fight with varyingly-subtle anti-piracy protections.
- The drunk-camera and vehicle sabotage return from the main game, without any changes.
The Lost and the Damned
- In Bad Cop Drop, the crooked cops will wisely refuse to take Johnny's bait and chase him to the ambush. They'll just sit in their spawn location firing at you from their car, which has locked doors and infinite weight, making it impossible to budge. This renders the mission unwinnable. Amusingly, they'll only start driving after Johnny dies.
- In Off Route, the prison bus has its engine's health lowered from 1750 to 50 upon spawning, making it much more likely to explode after ramming through cop cars like the game encourages you to. This doesn't render the mission unwinnable, though - just much harder. This may be an oversight - the bus still has its bulletproof protection.
- In Angels in America, there is a debug string for a "PHONE CALL LOOP" booby-trap that seemingly never got coded. Presumably the plan was for Billy's mission-advancing phone call to never trigger on cracked versions of the game.
- As in the main game, you are unable to use computers, although this DLC does not have any story missions that are broken by this.
- Similarly, using police computers is also disabled, although again, this doesn't matter since most of the police computers' interesting features are disabled in this DLC.
The Ballad of Gay Tony
- In Practice Swing, the game will never register that your golf balls have hit the tied-up union rep. They'll just bounce off like they hit the golf cart he's tied to, preventing the game from progressing further. You're also unable to exit the minigame, leaving you with no options outside of reloading your save or quitting.
- In No. 3, you are unable to raise or lower the platform holding the sportscars at the start of the mission, leaving you unable to get in your vehicle and proceed with the mission.
- In Party's Over, Tony will suddenly die after you've killed your third enemy during the club-defense section, failing the mission. This renders the mission unwinnable.
- Once again, using police computers is disabled, although as with The Lost and the Damned, this doesn't matter since most of the police computers' interesting features are disabled in this DLC. Oddly, the normal computers aren't disabled.
The Grand Theft Auto series
|Windows||Grand Theft Auto • London 1969 • Grand Theft Auto 2|
|PlayStation||Grand Theft Auto|
|Game Boy Color||Grand Theft Auto 2|
|Dreamcast||Grand Theft Auto 2|
|Windows||Grand Theft Auto III (Definitive Edition) • Vice City (Definitive Edition) • San Andreas (Definitive Edition)|
|PlayStation 2||Grand Theft Auto III • Vice City • San Andreas • Liberty City Stories • Vice City Stories|
|Xbox||Grand Theft Auto III • Vice City • San Andreas|
|Game Boy Advance||Grand Theft Auto Advance|
|PlayStation Portable||Liberty City Stories • Vice City Stories|
|Android, iOS||Grand Theft Auto III • Vice City • San Andreas • Liberty City Stories|
|PlayStation Portable||Chinatown Wars|
|Windows||Grand Theft Auto IV • Grand Theft Auto V|
|PlayStation 3, Xbox 360||Grand Theft Auto IV • Grand Theft Auto V|
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