Prerelease talk:Super Mario Bros. 3

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Youtube - Famimaga 1988/11, featuring another japanese SMB3 preview

Make sure to rewind all the way if it fast forards automatically, because I can't solve it on youtube yet!

This Contains stuff like: No Beeping during Dialog, N-spade game - Card backs have no letter N, just a spade, and I do not know about this- The Text needs Translation and a difference check against these and the final game. Otherwise it's Near Final! --Hamtaro126 (talk) 17:30, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

My observations:

• The HUD has the final design. I want to say the Cards are no longer monochrome outlines, but I'm not sure on that.
• The portion of World 1-3 shown in the 9/88 Famimaga has been replaced by the final version.
• At about 3:50 is a graphic (by Famimaga) that uses something very similar to the unused "P-Ball".
• There was beeping for the dialogue in the Toad House, Spade Game, and N-Spade Game. I don't think there ever was any beeping in the castle scenes.
• ...Man the uploader has a lot of Famimaga stuff...

One of the related videos was the same thing but in five parts. Here's just the first 10 minutes of the tape, which I think might be easier on browsers. Said uploader also has some GTV/GameTV (Famitsu) game-preview tapes from about 1988-90, one of which has something very relevant to this page... -WarioBarker (talk) 22:05, 31 October 2014 (EDT)

These are great finds! My only qualm is the remark about the (P) graphic. It appears the narrator was talking about things you can do with the A button and they used an (A) and things you can do with B button (e.g. tail attack) and used a (B), and then the (P) seemed to be in reference to the P-meter in the HUD (per flying.) So even though there's a little bit of coincidence, doesn't seem to me like it's worth noting because I'm pretty sure it's nothing but coincidence. But still, really awesome otherwise! :) I was thinking of perhaps making a map out of the visible part of proto-1-1? Southbird (talk) 17:00, 22 January 2015 (EST)

The "P-Ball" thing might be a coincidence, sure, but the fact they look pretty much identical is what caught my eye. As for making a map...hey, I'd love to see it, especially if you can find a map of the final 1-1 for comparison. :) -WarioBarker (talk) 03:34, 9 February 2015 (EST)

GTV Jul. 1988 preview footage

Found this while looking at the above split-up Famimaga 11/88 video. The uploader kindly put in annotations showing the differences he found, although he has annotations at various places throughout these videos (denoting games that ended up unreleased, stuff in prerelease footage that was removed from the final, and occasional cases of WTFery).

In order, the video shows:

• The SMB3 intro (no differences from what I can tell)
• An early 1-1 with some very different block and enemy placement (plus, as the uploader notes, a more generous time limit)
• During the above, the Venus Fire Traps shoot and move rapidly, suggesting that a possibly-mockup screenshot in the 9/88 Famimaga preview was legit (and toned down for the final in any case)
• What I think is part of an early 1-5

No Cards are shown in the HUD during the footage, but given the timeframe I feel comfortable in saying it's the monochrome-outline style.

On a side note, there's also an Oct. 1988 GTV tape with a montage showing parts of every level in World 1 plus a few in World 2, along with (also from World 1) a Toad House, completed N-Spade Game, and the roulette game intro (although oddly the gameplay itself is from World 3). I couldn't see any differences from the final game, though.

-WarioBarker (talk) 22:30, 31 October 2014 (EDT)

Para-Beetle Level Box Image Authenticity

Where did that "box scan" come from? That is way too clean to be either an off-screen photo from a CRT, or an early video framegrab, as was the norm in the late 80s and early 90s. MobyGames has scans from a number of regions and those are clearly authentic. Each screen should slightly rotated within the black frame, and the image itself should look more rough than it does. Also, the M in MARIO is actually incorrect, there's a white pixel missing in the upper left (as can be seen by the Famimaga screen next to it). -LocalH (talk) 01:18, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Seems to be from The Cover Project, which does extremely cleaned up box scans/recreations. But in some rare cases they'll completely redo the screenshots too, which seems to be the case here. (I've sourced screenshots from there before since the scans are pretty high res.) --Rabidabid (talk) 02:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC)