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ROM?

Question, Is this page even like...allowed to exist? Rule 2 states we can't talk about prototypes that aren't publicly available.

Zelda64 (talk) 22:26, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

The prototype is publicly available, but I'm not sure if it's fine to host it here at the moment due to its...dubious origins. Stomped Goomba SMM unused Small Mario hipdrop SMB3.png 22:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh, no offnese but I don't really understand why. Isn't it in the same league as the 97 Spaceworld demos?

And tbh I have no clue where to even look, so :/

Zelda64 (talk) 23:01, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

The thing is we didn't know where the Spaceworld '97 demo came from until long after the fact. I have the ROMs myself and they're circulating out on the web. In this case, we know from the word go these actually came from official servers.--From: CounterDiving (talk) 01:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Trainer sprites

Questions about the trainer sprites currently listed on the page: Where did these come from? Asking because, for example, Falkner is listed as still having his SW97 sprite here, while if you actually go and fight him (after bypassing the NPCs that normally block you from entering Violet City) he uses his final sprite.

If it's not exactly the final sprite, it would likely be something close to the 990613 or 990621 sprite set, considering the demos were compiled ca. two months later. Why would the trainers still use SW97 sprites when much newer sprites exist? So, then are the sprites on this page still contained within the compiled demo ROMs, but not actually used? In that case, this should be clarified on the page.

Or am I missing something obvious here? If I do, please explain. --Xdaniel (talk) 02:48, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

I think it might have been ripped by someone else who wasn't paying careful attention. I say to replace this with whatever is actually shown in the game (but also double check to make sure the sprites posted here actually are in the data). It could be possible that the trainer sprites also are different between Gold and Silver. --From: CounterDiving (talk) 03:18, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
I just checked the Silver demo and Falkner's sprite is the same as in Gold. The Pokemon sprites are different and match what's documented here, but yeah, the trainers' do need double-checking and possibly re-rips if or where they don't match any sprite that's already been ripped. --Xdaniel (talk) 12:32, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
Also, no. These are sprites are not in the demo. They were found a sprites folder dated back to May 1998. Please replace them. --From: CounterDiving (talk) 21:39, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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