Talk:Pokémon X and Y

Swear Filter

There is a filter for nicknames, can someone try to find the code (if there is one). Chaossy - The Computer Geek (talk) 16:36, 25 October 2013 (EDT)

That probably won't happen for a while until 3DS games can be dumped. There's definitely a list. How we're going to get to it will take some time though. --Team Fail (talk) 01:57, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

I think you mean decrypted. There's already plenty of 3DS games dumped, including X/Y. -Einstein95 (talk) 01:58, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

Would that even count as unused, though? Becuase I guess it is used, just reverse how normal text would be implemented. If it DOES count as used, I can think of a few more games that have filters off the top of my head. i.e. Animal Crossing: City Folk, Animal Crossing: New Leaf, half the software for communication built into the Wii U and 3DS, (Miiverse! Mii Plaza! Anything with text that's being developed in-house by Nintendo!) If that counts as unused...we've got a WHOLE lotta text searching to do :) Robotortoise (talk) 03:36, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

Word filters are a normal part of game functionality and should not be covered here, unless they are either unused or contain something noteworthy/strange. --BMF54123 (talk) 15:47, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

I had some difficulty with the title "Jr.", but I doubt there's very many "oddities" in the swearfilter for this game. --AquaBat (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

You can't input "Thanks Obama" as a name, but you can input Obama. Robotortoise (talk) 19:43, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

Because of the letters "s" "O" & "b" being in sequense i think MasterZeroFlash (talk) 16:24, 28 January 2014 (EST)

Proof

Here. Also known to be hidden in the game are Mega Forms for Latios and Latias, two unreleased Vivillon forms, and AZ's Floette (technically not unused since the model is used in the post-credits sequence that's very easy to miss entirely, but it's apparently fully functional in battle, which might count). These were all found by Smealum (I think that's his name?), so if you want primary sources I could go dig them up on his site and Twitter. I'm not sure if all of this should be added to the article yet, though, since it's highly likely that the three legends at least will be released in the future. Yamiidenryuu (talk) 14:56, 31 December 2013 (EST)

There is no point in adding these. Sooner or later, they'll be used.

Also, only one person claiming to find these in-game really isn't much proof, especially considering that he refuses to divulge his methods. --AquaBat (talk) 17:27, 1 January 2014 (EST)

A quick Youtube Search shows a handful of videos on Mega Latios/as, as well as the two Vivillon forms or AZ's Floette. Most of these videos show a Powersave being used to obtain these, which is also the reason why evidence of Shiny Xernias, Yveltal and Zygarde is present, with one of the videos listing a side-effect of the Latios/as-ite not being able to be traded, While another video on AZ's Floette credits a person by the name of "Raf". I might look into this if I don't feel like completing the SA:LE page or the BF3 Hidden Vehicle section. TheRoflGuy (talk) 19:25, 26 February 2014 (EST)

It's been two months since I posted that response. In that time, Powersaves was released. So yes, they have been hacked in. Either way, there's still a chance of them being used in the future, so there's no point in adding them right now. --AquaBat (talk) 20:50, 26 February 2014 (EST)

Nickname Filter

Words Such as Fuck, Bitch, Ass, Shit and many others cannot be entered as a nickname on X and Y. --You Forgot The Minor Details! (talk) 10:19, 23 January 2014 (EST)

If you look above, you'll see that we've discussed this previously. Unless they contain oddities or are unused entirely, wordfilters are not TCRF material. --AquaBat (talk) 19:43, 23 January 2014 (EST)

Shiny legends (no, not the event ones)

Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde seem to be shiny-locked, like Reshiram, Zekrom and Victini of Black and White, but this guy managed to get their shiny forms with PowerSave. I'm assuming it's worth adding since we did so for BW's unobtainable shiny legends, but do we wait for better pictures or what? (By the way, what is PowerSave?) Yamiidenryuu (talk) 20:57, 20 February 2014 (EST)

From a quick Google search, it seems as though the PowerSave is like an Action Replay, but for 3DS Pokemon save files. Since it can now be reproduced independently, I guess we could put them on the page with the codes -Einstein95 (talk) 21:37, 20 February 2014 (EST)

I had planned to make note of this already, around the time I added the section to the Black/White article. I just never got around to it. However, I wasn't planning on including pictures or descriptions; at the time, I only knew of Smealum's discovery of the shinies, and we've already discussed that we can't use Smealum's data because he hadn't given us any way to obtain proof of his discoveries. I didn't realize that this proto-AR device was able to modify X and Y yet.

One small problem, though: where are the codes? --AquaBat (talk) 01:34, 22 February 2014 (EST)

(By the way, small tidbit: every other legendary in the games is shiny-locked as well, but since these legendaries did not originate from Kalos and shiny versions of these were previously available, the lock is rendered nearly useless.)

Unused Key Items

So Bulbapedia just added a handful of Key items you can't get in the game to their list- there's the Shalour Sable, which we already knew about, but also a Common Stone" and two "Travel Trunk"s (in silver and gold varieties, apparently). The Mega Charm and Mega Glove also exist as items. Obviously we aren't going to want to put anything about them up without further details (which I cannot find...), but Bulbapedia is pretty reliable, so we can be pretty certain these actually exist, at least. Yamiidenryuu (talk) 12:50, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

Well, first we'd have to find out where in the world these came from. Project Pokémon was working on decrypting the game, which may point us in the right direction. We should also make sure none of these have a chance of being used in the future. (Also, who said anything about the Shalour Sable? This is the first I'm hearing of this.) --AquaBat (talk) 13:58, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

I don't see these unused items you're talking about on the page. I assume they've been removed until they can be investigated further. --AquaBat (talk) 14:12, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

No, they're still on there... and I guess the Shalour Sable was never mentioned here, but it's been know of for a while (as an actual item; it's mentioned in-game at one point) since someone found its image on the PGL. (And by "reliable", I mean unverifiable things usually get taken down, which is why Volcanion and Hoopa aren't mentioned anywhere on the site. :P) Yamiidenryuu (talk) 15:22, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

Oh, they were at the bottom of the page.

The Common Stone is most likely what the Intriguing Stone is meant to turn into once you find out that it's just a worthless rock.

The Travel Trunk is a mystery. We'd need an ingame description.

I hadn't heard that what was found on the PGL turned out to be the "Shalour Sable". I can't remember what was said ingame, so I can't place what this is. A type of food like the Galette?

The Charm and Glove may be there for identification by the dialogue for when Korrina and Diantha Mega Evolve their Pokémon: "The foe's <X> [Mega Stone] is reacting to <Y>'s [user] <Z> [item being used to Mega Evolve]!" Obviously, whenever a player character, Serena, or Lysandre (he has a different type of ring, but two items identified as Mega Ring aren't necessary) Mega Evolves a Pokémon, <Z> would be set to Mega Ring, but Korrina's special glove requires a separate item to be made, the Mega Glove, and likewise with Diantha's charm, the Mega Charm. Note Bulbapedia's discussion of the Key Stone. That's my theory, anyway, but let's avoid speculation until we have conclusive evidence.

--AquaBat (talk) 20:30, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

The Shalour Sable being that item is was a plausible guess, not confirmed, but the Sable being in the code makes it seem more likely. And it was mentioned in the same context as the Gallete (by someone by the stand, if you want to check it out yourself), so it's probably a similar food item, yes. That theory regarding the Mega items makes sense as well, though I'd be interested so see if they have unused bag pictures... Yamiidenryuu (talk) 17:31, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

Hello everyone. Just wanted to leave a message that the source was found thanks to User:Kaphotics from Bulbapedia. I hope this helps the article. --Sgv Sth (talk) 22:35, 14 April 2014 (EDT)

Kaphotics is from Project Pokémon, but thanks anyway. --AquaBat (talk) 22:03, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

Ah, I see. Well, there are the person to talk to since they added those items to the list. In any case, good luck. --Sgv Sth (talk) 23:53, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

Info, including confirming that that thing from the GL is indeed the Shalour Sable. Yamiidenryuu (talk) 23:57, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

The Wordfilter

For the record, this is the wordfilter, provided by our friendly neighborhood Kaphotics from Project Pokémon.

• Part I
• Part II

The only noteworthy things I see are words not even a 9 year-old would use and the word "censor" itself. I think we can classify this as a normal wordfilter. Case closed. --AquaBat (talk) 22:01, 15 April 2014 (EDT)

It's the 3DS's internal list from the NAND; not the wordfilter for X/Y. --Kaphotics (talk) 01:48, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

What about "triangleboy"? I looked that up and it's a device designed to bypass proxies. Seems like some programmer was having fun with irony. Robotortoise (talk) 02:07, 18 April 2014 (EDT)

Shiny Diancie

Back when Diancie was first revealed, the official english site accidentally put up an image of its shiny form. If anyone can find a copy of the original screenshot, that'd make a nice shiny Diancie image. :P I think I saved the screenshot somewhere, but for now here's a screenshot of the screenshot. Yamiidenryuu (talk) 12:12, 12 August 2014 (EDT)

Mega Lati@s and Lati@site

Just a question, but do we need to mention this in the article? I ask since even though they are only in ORAS, a player could trade either Pokémon and their respective stone over through trading. --Sgv Sth (talk) 12:08, 7 December 2014 (EST)

If they're tradable and usable without hacks, they don't need to be mentioned. --AquaBat (talk) 13:07, 7 December 2014 (EST)

Tested, they can be traded over and used in battle, but can't become Mega evolved. I suggest the info should remain on the page. --M64m (talk) 13:42, 7 December 2014 (EST)

What are you talking about? They can Mega Evolve in X and Y. I've tested that. --AquaBat (talk) 14:20, 7 December 2014 (EST)

The Mega evolution option never appeared for me in battle with Latios, that's all. --M64m (talk) 14:30, 7 December 2014 (EST)

My fault for not asking. I didn't know ORAS allowed trading them to X and Y. Ended up testing it myself after reading this talk page, and mega evolution worked.Theclaw (talk) 00:16, 8 December 2014 (EST)

Eh, not a problem. If it was not for me knowing previously that they could Mega Evolve prior to ORAS, I actually would not have thought about it. @M64m - I hate to ask this, but you do have "Latiosite" and not "Latiasite," right? --Sgv Sth (talk) 00:48, 8 December 2014 (EST)

Yes. Not sure why it didn't work. Either way, looks like we have our answer. --M64m (talk) 00:51, 8 December 2014 (EST)

AZ Floette

If it's got unique stats and is unobtainable, then it's unused. Is this being commented out in anticipation of a possible distribution? In that scenario, it'd still go on the page until that distribution actually happens. -Ehm (talk) 21:59, 11 August 2016 (EDT)

Why would we put something on the page that has the chance of being used in the future? That's why we have the Expansions template: to prevent exactly that. --AquaBat (talk) 01:34, 12 August 2016 (EDT)

If it's currently unused, it goes on the page. Besides, is anyone really expecting significant future updates or events for these games, three years after release, with Sun and Moon on the horizon? --BMF54123 (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2016 (EDT)

Uh, Volcanion, the very last Pokemon in the Gen 6 Pokedex, was only just distributed in July for Japan, after a little more than two and a half years since the release of X and Y, and it was only announced like a week ago that it was being distributed in the US/Europe "this fall". "Fall" could mean anything from next month (two months from Sun and Moon's release) to November (the month of Sun and Moon's release).

There's also the fact that they're currently distributing every Mythical Pokemon minus Deoxys over a period of 11 months, including December, which is one month after the release of Sun and Moon.

It really isn't unreasonable to believe that they'll announce more distributions. --AquaBat (talk) 22:19, 12 August 2016 (EDT)

Just as BMF54123 said, if and when this particular piece of data becomes used, then we'll remove it from the page like we've done countless times before with other pages. If it's unused, it stays on the page until it becomes otherwise. -- Bast (talk) 22:29, 12 August 2016 (EDT)