Proto:Shining Force III/November 1997 Segakore Demo
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A build found on Segakore Sega Bible Mogitate SegaSaturn. Soukangou November 1997, a demo disc featuring games shown off at the Autumn Tokyo Game Show in 1997 (which ran from September 5-7). File dates indicate it was compiled at least a few days after the show had ended.
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Unused Areas 60 maps are included with this thing, some of which are so early they don't even resemble the final game's art style. |
BTL99
To do: redo with proper .CHR. |
This battle was shown off in Sega's TGS '97 video. It's in the final as well, but inaccessible due to the code attempting to load from the wrong addresses. This version, however, is just barely functional.
It's .CHR file indicates the enemies are: Saraband Soldier, Goblin, Golem, Sniper, and Skull Mage.
Beating the map causes the game to freak out and kick you back to the title screen.
Unused Characters
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Here's a list of all playable characters defined in the X5 scripts:
シンビオス ダンタレス マスキュリン グレイス へイワ_ド オブライト アイリン ジュリアン シバルリー エルダー カーン ゴブじい ゼロ 呪本15 呪本14 呪本15 呪本16 呪本17 呪本18 呪本19 メディオン キャンべル ウリュド シンテシス After this it's [呪本24] up to [呪本59]
Through editing game flags via the Debug menu, additional characters can be unlocked, though keep in mind only 6 characters can be used in battle and all of which are filled by default with Synbios-Obright. Zero, Medion, Campbell, Uryudo and Syntesis do not seem to show up during gameplay though certain assets (such as Medion's portrait) are present in the game's files. Sprite files up to Fynnding technically exist, but at this stage they're mostly placeholders, and some characters are missing models, such as Irene. Stat wise, everything up to Eldar appears to be fully defined, while Khan and Grandfather are only partially done. Both are equipped with a Wand and Ankh, are LVs 5 and 12 and have 16 and 7 ATK respectively. The only other thing to note is Irene uses Claws while Cybel uses the standard lance.
General changes
The exit to Balsamo the two soldiers are blocking is functional, but will only send you back to Balsamo.
Striking an enemy plays a different sound effect than final.
The camera does not move when you highlight an enemy for attack.
The path to rescue Bernard in Balsamo Inn is functional, but the wall blocking it remains solid even after the cutscene ends.
Many unused areas contain NPCs that will walk around in circles, occasionally they can be talked to, and their dialogue appears to be loaded from X5SAMPLE.BIN
Debug Mode
Almost completely different to any debug after it, 3602623E 0001 will enable a somewhat crippled debug mode, with only the first three options doing anything of note. Its functions are as follows:
Name | Explanation |
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EditGameFlag | Allows you to set in-game flags, A sets it to Off, C sets it On. |
SelectScene | Same as Scene in the final. |
SoundTest | Sound Test, only Music and Effects can be played, like the other demos. |
Menu4 | Does nothing, likely not finished. Selecting it just refreshes menu. |
Menu5 | ^ |
Menu6 | ^ |
BirdViewMap | The game complains of a General Undefined Instruction at address 6088090 |
Menu 8 | Does nothing, likely not finished. |
Menu 9 | ^ |
Kodera Test | Doesn't work. Judging by the name, it might have something to do with the .SPR files. |
Holding Z will allow you to clip through walls, and if holding Z while in a battle, instantly clear said battle, sending you to Shop Test. X+Y+Z will freeze the game, and pressing L or R will enable a printout display. Pressing Start will unfreeze the game.
Controls
Pressing X+Y+Z together will pause the game. In this mode, pressing any button other than L, R, or Start will advance the game 1 frame, pressing L will enable some printout information and R will disable. To exit, press the Start button. Holding Z will disable collision, allowing you to cross out of bounds. In battle, if you hold Z while an enemy or character ends their turn, the battle instantly ends, or instead you can kill specific characters/enemies by holding Start while ending their turn. Finally, pressing R during a cutscene will skip dialogue, and L will disable it. Pressing it multiple times can sometimes advance through scenes slightly faster, though this can crash the game at certain spots.
Controlling Enemies
Setting the bit 0128-6 in EditGameFlag. will allow you to control enemies during battle.
Fight Menu
Setting 0128-0 in EditGameFlag will enable a fight menu, with slightly different options compared to final, but is far less stable. The game seems to always crash at the end of a battle wile using it. These options are as follows:
- CNO - Unknown, cannot be changed.
- ACT - The options are: Fight, FAR F. ItemC, and Magic,
- NO - Goes from 0-101, its use depends on what ACT you selected. I.E., what spell the character uses if you select magic.
- LV - Level of attack, likely only for Spells.
- HIT - NRML, S--H, N--H, SUKA(Guard), and CRTC.
- KAI - If HIT is set to CRTC, this selects what critical attack plays.
- HAN - Unknown.
- D - Attacks, D1 D2 and D3. By default, D2 is always set to -1, and the whole thing seems fairly unfinished. Can softlock your game.
Note: Printout must be enabled in order to see the display, otherwise you'll just be staring at a black screen.
Debug Flags
Using the EditGameFlag option it is possible to enable extra debug functions, format is "Address-Bit" and they are as follows:
0108-2 - window layer disabled
0108-7 - sprites disabled
0110-0 - Slow mode
0110-3 - Disables the backgound layer
0130-0 - Hitbox display (Overlays a wireframe around collision.)
0130-3 - Camera Tilting or alternatively, Drunk Mode
Unused Audio
- KING.SAP
- OTAMA.SAP
"Otamaaaaa Desho!"
This can be heard if you manage to access the Battle debug, though the game often crashes while using it.
- RYO.SAP
"HAO! Shoukouken!"
Likely developer placeholder for Irene.
Unused Graphics
- Early Julian
Prototype | Final |
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A rougher version of Julian's portrait.
- 3D Model
Prototype | Final |
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The final adds a brace to his right leg.
- Khan
Khan's default model(X8PC10A.BIN) has an Ankh baked into the model. In the final, the weapon is instead a giant knuckle.
- Early Benetram
Prototype | Final |
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ID:0076
An earlier design for Benetram. Has a very strange walk cycle, almost as if he's supposed to have been wounded.
- Treasure Chest
ID:0199
Early Treasure Chest, stored in XBTL99.CHR.
- Shogun Centaur(Tybalt?)
ID:0109
Loaded in XBTL102.CHR is this odd sprite. It doesn't appear to be used in the battle as is (the battle in question appears to have been in the middle of a rework, as the enemy position and camera do not appear to fit the map in question), and its ID suggests it wasn't an enemy in the first place, as Enemy sprite IDs, even in this early stage start at 201. The ID suggests this may have been originally Tybalt, or at the very least a placeholder of him, though it could just as easily be an early design for General Varlant.
- Imperial Mage
Segakore | Final |
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ID:0255
XBAL_1.CHR
- Irene
Segakore | Final |
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File:SF3IreneFinal.gif |
ID:0006
Quite a strange recolor, though this only applies to the pre-promotion, the promoted sprite is already close to final by this point.
Removed From Final
File:SF3SatkoreOldWoman.gif
ID:0083
An old woman.
File:SF3SatkoreAssassain.gif
ID:0084
The Assassain lying on the ground, defeated. Used in the final cutscene of demo battle 104.
File:SF3SatkoreSaraband.gif
ID:0085
A Saraband Soldier sitting. Used in the room where Rock and Waltz are in the final.
Items/Spells
To do: Get a proper comparison up. |
Prototype | Final |
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At this point in development only the basic weapons and items have been implemented. Being mostly taken from the previous game, the majority of spells are present, but their functionality varies. The only way most of these can be obtained is through Memory editing a character's inventory. Item shops only carry Herbs and Antidote, while weapon shops are non-functional (talking to the one in Balsamo gives you an excuse for why they're closed while the one in Shop Test crashes the game).
- Shining the Holy Ark Leftovers
All but two of these are "末設定" (NOT SET). However, the first two shields are called シミタ一 (Scimitar) and グラディウス (Gladius), the latter of which is unused even in the final game, but the former is equipped on the non-functional Mask Monk enemies found on Saraband Bridge.
- Daggers
Proto | Final |
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Proto | Final |
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Proto | Final |
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The first three daggers are entirely different. These designs would last until the Flash! Sega Saturn demo before being remade, though the third dagger was retained and slightly touched up for the unused Sneaky Knife (シーブスナイフ).
Proto | Final |
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- Spells
Proto | Final |
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??? once had a proper icon, which was removed from final, but also comes from Shining the Holy Ark. The final however still attempts to read from where it used to be, leading it to produce garbage data. The slot it's in becomes Tiamat in the final.
Unused Text
X5DREAM.BIN
The lines starting with a glitch character oddly appear to be related to Shining the Holy Ark, as they mention locations such as Desire Village, the first village of that game.
スト_リ_テラ_のお言葉 みなさんお待ちかねェ_ █0プロロ_グム_ビ_ █0ゲ_ムのはじめから █0ロ_ディ戦から脱出延突入 █0デザイア村 █0スクリュ_効果 █0鍾乳洞を探索 █0アボリジンの洋館 █0普通にプレイする █0掲影用:プロロ_グイべントまで █0掲影用:アボリジンの洋館のみ
X5BTL110.BIN
The entire scene for the train battle is in the game, though it can't be seen as the game crashes if it is selected. Of note is that this particular file seems to be earlier than the others.
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Sound Test
No jingles or voices are present (though some voices are in the game; see Unused Audio), 10 slots are completely missing, and another 12(!) are duplicates.
Duplicate tracks are in bold, while italics indicate songs not in this build.
Track | Name | Final Track |
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0 | Silence | Silence |
1 | Ishahacut's Room | Soldier of the Republic |
2 | A Distant Journey | Hero of the Republic |
3 | Flying Dragon of the Battlefield | Soldier of the Empire |
4 | Flowing River, Light Of The Moon | Hero of the Empire |
5 | Confrontation | Monsters |
6 | Main theme | A Formidable Enemy |
7 | Main theme | The Mercenary Soldier |
8 | Main theme | The Mercenary Soldier |
9 | Soldier of the Republic | The Mercenary Soldier |
10 | Soldier of the Empire | Soldier of the Republic |
11 | Monsters | Main Theme |
12 | Monsters | Ishahacut's Room |
13 | A Peaceful Early Afternoon | A Life Of Harmony |
14 | The Ramshackle Village | A Peaceful Early Afternoon |
15 | A Life Of Harmony | Sorrow |
16 | A Town Full Of Life | The Ramshackle Village |
17 | Main Theme | Conspiracies of Bulzome |
18 | Main Theme | The White Swan Castle |
19 | Main Theme | Church Prayer |
20 | The White Swan Castle | A Town Full Of Life |
21 | Church Prayer | Song Of Soul's Rest |
22 | Council of war | Accident |
23 | Main Theme | Flying Dragon of the Battlefield |
24 | Main Theme | Confrontation |
25 | Sorrow | Flowing River, Light Of The Moon |
26 | Song Of Soul's Rest | An Afternoon of rest |
27 | Main Theme | Peaceful Times |
28 | Conspiracies of Bulzome | Council of war |
29 | Main Theme | The Blacksmith |
30 | Main Theme | A Slightly Drunken Mood |
31 | An Afternoon of rest | Tiger of Honesty and Affection |
32 | Peaceful Times | A Distant Journey |
33 | Accident | The Final Battle |
34 | Tiger of Honesty and Affection | A Powerful Force |
35 | N/A | Wind of Despair |
36 | N/A | Dignity And Pride |
37 | N/A | World Of Mystery |
38 | N/A | And the Legend Begins |
39 | N/A | Shining Force III (the demo uses TOSHI.SAP) |
40 | N/A | Unused (early version of "The Lone Wolf") |
41 | N/A | The Shadowy Onlooker |
42 | N/A | An Eerie Silence |
43 | N/A | A Time of Rest |
44 | N/A | Ending Title Song |