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ROM Versions

Out of my 6 Tamagotchi Connections, I observed the following ROM versions via the ROM Test settings:

TamagotchiConnection V4 RomTest.png

V1: A4

V2: A4 (Three of these)

V3: A3 2

V4: A4.2U

Maybe we could start compiling a table? Ver A4.2U also displays a sprite of a Tamagotchi on the ROM test. Is this character unused? I don't see it listed on any V4 charts.

Mole (talk) 22:05, 10 January 2018 (EST)

Thanks for this info! This is really interesting. I actually tried researching ROM versions a while back, but since I didn't want to perform a ROM test on any of my Tamagotchis I only had other people's attempts online to go by. According to an old spreadsheet I made, someone with a US "Connection" V1 got a ROM version of 4.2 and someone else with a European "Connexion" V1 supposedly got a ROM version of 2.1.
As for the character, I believe that's Nyatchi - it's obtained using one of the costume items. I'm not entirely sure that costume item is present on the V4 though so that's worth checking. --Hwd45 (talk) 03:35, 11 January 2018 (GMT)

My V5 says version 34.1. (I also lost the save data in the process. My fault, I accidentally erased it before initiating the test. But let that be a warning). Legitendo (talk) 09:29, 21 June 2018 (EDT)

The version number is probably so radically different to the earlier versions because the V5 was the first international release since the V1 - perhaps it's worth testing the other Japanese versions (the Keitai, Akai, Entama and Uratama) to see how they compare. Probably also worth recording the region of each Tamagotchi we test (there's version differences between European and American builds for example), the shell design (since the shells were released in waves, some of the waves have version differences and bug fixes compared to earlier waves) and any other noticeable version differences (like the Honey / Love Potion discrepancy). --Hwd45 (talk) 15:40, 21 June 2018 (GMT)
It's a European one. I assume the above ones are American? Legitendo (talk) 03:18, 22 June 2018 (EDT)

I've dug a bit deeper and found the following ROM versions so far:
V1: 2.0, 2.1, 2.4, 4.0, 4.2, A4
V2: 4.2, A3, A4, A5
V3: A3 0, A3 2
V4: A4.2U, A4.3E, A4.5E
V4.5: A4.5-3E
V5: 34.1
V6: 6.0 00 32.0 0, 6.0 01 32.0 0
V7: 7.0 01 32.0
V8: 8.0 00
Although I do think these would make suitable additions to the page, first I'd like to identify and differences between the versions and if they're associated with different regional versions and design waves, too. Any additional information on this sort of thing is greatly appreciated, and I'm compiling as much information as I can find into a spreadsheet as we speak. --Hwd45 (talk) 17:07, 8 November 2018 (GMT)

Some Plus (Japanese V1) models have a version of 0.0 and some Keitai models have a version of 6.1. Probably worth incorporating the Japanese pre-Plus Color models into this page, as they seem to continue the version number trend of the V1 - strictly increasing numbers instead of numbers prefixed by an A. --Hwd45 (talk) 15:43, 29 December 2018 (GMT)

Page Split

This page could do with a cleanup, which I think is largely due to covering all six versions at once. Each version has very large differences from each other, including content which is covered on this site. I'd like to suggest the following:

  • Create a separate page for every version
  • Create subpages for each version and use the main page only for general things which cover all versions

What are people's thoughts on this? --LarryLemmy (talk) 07:59, 9 January 2019 (EST)

I've been thinking the same thing, though I think I prefer the latter option. I feel like "version differences" in particular becomes slightly confusing when "version" can mean both the named retail version (1, 2, 3) and the minor subversions that were produced. I also think that it might be favourable to include more than the versions listed here - the Japanese models during the Plus era have their own similar quirks and I feel like the similarity of the Tama-Go and the Tamagotchi Friends suggests that merging that page into the Connection page might be something to think about. They even internally continue the version numbering from the Connection series and it makes more sense to me that the Tama-Go should only have its own page if the rest of them get their own pages too - otherwise, I think t should be a subpage along with the rest. --Hwd45 (talk) 14:36, 9 January 2019 (GMT)
I'll do some experimenting in my sandbox, then I'll ask what people think. --LarryLemmy (talk) 13:57, 9 January 2019 (EST)
There's actually a little bit of incorrect information on your pages which makes me think the presentation of this page has misled you slightly. I'm sure changing the layout would remove any of the ambiguity that might have caused you to misinterpret the information. Looking at your pages, though, I noticed you listed some information I was unaware of about duplicate characters on the V2. I think maybe we should make a list of the order the characters appear in the debug screen and collect any information we can find about what animations the duplicates might be missing. More info on Tsutayatchi is probably a good idea too.
I've also been thinking a bit more about what layout this page should take, and I think I've decided subpages are the way forwards. There's just so much information that's shared between different versions that it makes sense to list that information in the general section which applies to all versions. Furthermore, individual versions sometimes have so little content that it'd result in them having really small and unremarkable pages. I'll start making some kind of template in my user page using the information that's already on the page, and any info you think should be changed (like the bits you changed on your userpage) can be edited before releasing the edit.
There's also a lot of information on the main page which is incorrect or outdated. I think, if we're going to overhaul the page layout, some of that information should probably be handled too. In particular, there's information on the ROM versions (specifically V1's ROM versions) that's not quite right. Right now I'm still trying to do more research into the different ROM versions for each model, find out what changes were made between these versions and also see if the ROM versions are associated with different shell designs (e.g. wave 1 models might be more prone to using earlier ROM versions), whether they correlate with the regions associated with each version and any other information there might be. I'd greatly appreciate any help or info you might be able to give me. --Hwd45 (talk) 13:36, 12 January 2019 (GMT)
Okay, I've altered my page a bit so that the sections are more suited to subpages. If you'd like you can edit my sandbox and make any additions and corrections to it. One of my other aims is to keep the wording style more in line with the rest of TCRF, for example saying "American/European version" instead of "Connection/Connexion" and avoiding too many theories or speculation.--LarryLemmy (talk) 09:18, 12 January 2019 (EST)
I tend to prefer "American / European" too, but I don't see how "Connection / Connexion" is "theories and speculation" at all. Furthermore, in this particular example, the Connexion also refers to the Australian version, which is often the same as the European releases. Regardless, there's usually multiple different iterations of a given version released in each region, so we should be aware of the fact that, for example, there's no "European Version" of the V1, there's actually at least two different European versions, going by ROM versions.
Right now I'm also following up with what I mentioned in my previous comment and recording the order characters appear in the debug menu - turns out the V3 has a few duplicates, too. --Hwd45 (talk) 14:25, 12 January 2019 (GMT)
I wasn't referring to the Connection/Connexion stuff with regards to speculation, I just think it's better to keep the wording of that in line with the rest of this site. I meant like how Butterflytchi is said to be based on a character from a PS1 game, but it could plausibly be a coincidence that there are two unrelated characters based on butterflies - though admittedly I'm not familiar with the game in question. --LarryLemmy (talk) 09:54, 12 January 2019 (EST)
Oh, well in that case I agree. --Hwd45 (talk) 14:58, 12 January 2019 (GMT)