User talk:Smoke/Archive 2

Uploading and Merging

Would you mind uploading rest of the audio files for Bully: Scholarship Edition? Also, should the Unused Ambience and music be merged into a subpage known as Unused Sounds? SodaDog (talk) 11:04, 20 February 2017 (EST)

I will upload the sounds once I get to it. I am a little sick today. Also, the subpage is fine. You may want to merge the unused music with the unused sound subpage, too. Smoke (talk) 11:08, 20 February 2017 (EST)

What about the voices? SodaDog (talk) 11:13, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Keep the unused dialog subpage and the unused sounds/music subpage separate. Smoke (talk) 11:14, 20 February 2017 (EST)

What about unused graphics? Should that have it's own page, or is it too small? Also, this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27pi-Pr9l40 SodaDog (talk) 11:30, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Graphics is good for now. Also for the three builds of Bully: SE, wait until he shows some sort of "proof" (e.g screenshots, video). It would be better if he took the builds and put them into iso files and uploaded them to the public. Smoke (talk) 11:36, 20 February 2017 (EST)

I see. Should the Unused Ambience section of the page be arranged like the Unused Music as in, having titles for each unused sound? SodaDog (talk) 11:39, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Eh, why not? Smoke (talk) 11:41, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Should I mark the ones not found in the PS2 files as "exclusive to Scholarship Edition"? Also, this mission has a lost introduction line which was restored in Anniversary Edition and not found within the files of other verions. https://youtu.be/TUDOoy5sA9k?t=1m12s SodaDog (talk) 11:54, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Marking them would be useful. And the lost line, it can be mentioned. Smoke (talk) 11:56, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Do you like the newly formatted unused Ambience page, or should I change back to the old one? SodaDog (talk) 11:58, 20 February 2017 (EST)

It's fine Smoke (talk) 11:59, 20 February 2017 (EST)

I also heard that Jimmy probably has unused Clique-related insults are taken out for some unused reason. Should the Dialog page be split into Characters, Insults, Mission/Cutscene Lines and Misc if we get enough content? SodaDog (talk) 13:12, 20 February 2017 (EST)

Missing Voice Clips

I heard that a ton of voice clips for Jealous Johnny got missed out. Here's the list, so you could upload them: Tad_3-01_004_v1.xwb Gord_3-01_021_v1.xwb Justin_3-01_022_v1.xwb Tad_3-01_023_v1.xwb Justin_3-01_024_v1.xwb Justin_3-01_024_v2.xwb Justin_3-01_024_v3.xwb Tad_3-01_025_v1.xwb Tad_3-01_025_v2.xwb Tad_3-01_025_v3.xwb Pinky_3-01_026_v1.xwb Pinky_3-01_026_v2.xwb Pinky_3-01_026_v3.xwb Justin_3-01_027_v1.xwb Tad_3-01_028_v1.xwb Pinky_3-01_029_v1.xwb Gord_3-01_036_v1.xwb Tad_3-01_037_v1.xwb Tad_3-01_038_v1.xwb Pinky_3-01_039_v1.xwb Justin_3-01_040_v1.xwb Trevor_3-01_042_v1.xwb Gord_3-01_045_v1.xwb Jimmy_3-01_055_v1.xwb Johnny_3-01_056_v1.xwb Gord_3-01_058_v1.xwb Gord_3-01_058_v2.xwb Gord_3-01_058_v3.xwb Lola_3-01_059_v1.xwb Lola_3-01_059_v2.xwb Lola_3-01_059_v3.xwb Jimmy_3-01_060_v1.xwb Jimmy_3-01_060_v2.xwb Jimmy_3-01_060_v3.xwb Jimmy_3-01_061_v1.xwb Jimmy_3-01_061_v2.xwb Jimmy_3-01_061_v3.xwb

Thanks! SodaDog (talk) 12:58, 21 February 2017 (EST)

I'll upload them once I get home. So possibly in about 3 hours. Smoke (talk) 13:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)

I'll transcribe and arrange the page myself. Don't forget about the other characters! In case if you're wondering, I own the PS2 version of the game, and I cannot rip XWB files from that version of the game, even via the normal method. SodaDog (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2017 (EST)

The PS2 version is a completely different version from Scholarship Edition. It runs on the RenderWare engine. But, I have looked through it just for a quick peek. Smoke (talk) 13:05, 21 February 2017 (EST)

Just a friendly reminder: Don't forget! Also, if I get my hands on a copy of the PC version, I'll upload the rest from there. SodaDog (talk) 17:13, 21 February 2017 (EST)

I am also on the IRC chat. You can contact me or anybody else there if you need anything. Smoke (talk) 17:14, 21 February 2017 (EST)

I can't seem to access it. SodaDog (talk) 17:28, 21 February 2017 (EST)

Moving Talking Places

I can't seem to access the IRC for some reason, should we talk on Steam instead? SodaDog (talk) 17:11, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

It's KiwiIRC that's not working. I'm using IRCCloud as a temporary replacement (it requires signing up). Smoke (talk) 17:17, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Can you link me? SodaDog (talk) 17:20, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

IRCCloud Smoke (talk) 17:23, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

What server is it? (I'm Karbonated) SodaDog (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

What is your ID or something? SodaDog (talk) 17:46, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Server: irc.badnik.net Port: 6667 Channel: #tcrf Smoke (talk) 17:47, 19 March 2017 (EDT)

Got it. I'm here now. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by SodaDog (talk • contribs)

Unused models

How did you figure out which models were unused on Counter-Strike:_Source#Unused_Map_Models? Did you play the level? I ask because many look used to me. I haven't edited the page as I may be mistaken.--Robossnik (talk) 08:48, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

I have used BSPSource 1.3.13. Alternatively, I also the command listmodels to help too.

For BSPSource:

1. I loaded a map into the program
2. I opened the "Dependencies" tab, then the "Models" tab
3. I copied all of the model files from that tab, then pasted them into Notepad++
4. I repeated step 1 - 3 until I had gone through the whole map folder (excluding test_speakers)
5. I extracted all of the models and textures from the VPK files into a separate folder
6. I went through all of the models in the folder and deleted the model files that were present in Notepad++
7. If any model files were leftover in the folder, I made sure to recheck Notepad++

My method may or may not have worked in the end, but so far it's been accurate.

NOTE: Some files, like the computer.mdl and coffee_mug3.mdl, are unused, were turned into map brushes, etc.. I would like to recheck them too since I do make a mistake or few. Smoke (talk) 09:52, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

Seems almost full proof, to rule out any error, when playing the game using the impulse 106 cheat on the models you believe are unused to see if the name matches. I also speculate the two cs_assault boxes with non-english writing on, may only be used in non-english builds of the game, would still be worth mentioning.

Also, can you extract the print screens from File:CSS computer.mdl.png and other computers? Might be some interesting internal Valve programs to see.--Robossnik (talk) 10:08, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

I can. I also have found the unedited print screen. It is named computer2.vtf and is in the cs_havana folder. Smoke (talk) 10:17, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

computer2b.vtf	screen.vtf

Cool I'll get to work researching their contents, and add them to the main page. Who knew Valve had a fart button!--Robossnik (talk) 10:30, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

Well I can't work out why those models are unused, have you done a comparison between the ones that look identical? Such as dryer_box & dryer_box2. The file names suggest they may be different versions of the same model.--Robossnik (talk) 12:13, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

For dryer_box.mdl & dryer_box2.mdl, dryer_box2.mdl is an opened variant of dryer_box.mdl which isn't used. I've already stated it on the page. Smoke (talk) 12:44, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

I got Tornado Outbreak's audio ripped

Just wanted to let you know I ripped some soundfiles from Tornado Outbreak using Wii Scrubber :D — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Larryeedwards (talk • contribs)

PNG Crushing

Whatever tool(s) you're using to crush PNGs are stripping the gamma information, making them appear slightly different in certain web browsers like Firefox. Please check your tool settings and ensure gamma information is retained going forward. Thanks. -Ehm (talk) 15:35, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Random

Someone gave me link about two users who know how to hack AJ they have a Discord server: https://discordapp.com/invite/enzD42N However I'm too busy on things to join in.--... (talk) 17:07, 15 September 2017 (EDT)