Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
|Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|
Developers: Rockstar North,
TransGaming (Mac OS X),
War Drum Studios (Mobile)
This game has unused areas.
This game has a bugs page
|Oh dear, I do believe I have the vapors.|
This page contains content that is not safe for work or other locations with the potential for personal embarrassment.
Such as: Hot Coffee
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, the third game in the Grand Theft Auto III era, was originally released in 2004 to high acclaim from both fans and critics ultimately becoming the best-selling PlayStation 2 game of all time. With sales of over 21.5 million units across all formats, in 2010 it was ranked as the 3rd best-selling game of all time. The game has a huge amount of unused content within it as well as evidence of other features that were removed or changed during its development cycle.
Prerelease stuff. this is a good place to start
| Unused Mission Related Text and Audio|
With 100+ missions, there are bound to be some cuts. Including whole missions.
| Unused Sounds|
Sounds that never saw the light of day in San Andreas.
| Unused Textures|
Some leftovers from the previous game, some a bit... out of place.
| Unused Interiors|
With how many places you can be... some had to go!
There are a number of differences between the PC version of the game and the console (PS2 and XBox) versions - most of these appear to be simple omissions, however several mods exist that re-implement some of these features.
- In the stock PC version, vehicles are always dirty and do not get clean following rainfall or entering a Pay N Spray. On the console versions, vehicles accumulate dirt over time and get clean following rainfall or being re-sprayed. This omission was fixed in the 1.01 patch for the PC version (this patch also removes access to Hot Coffee which is explained in following section)
- Some large trucks have double-rear wheels on the consoles, however they don't on the PC version. This caused a glitch present in the console versions, in which vehicles with double rear wheels would leave only single tire marks after burnouts or while powersliding.
- When entertaining prostitutes in a vehicle, the resultant noises from CJ and the girl can be heard on the consoles but only the vehicle bumping sound can be heard on the PC.
- The moon has correct phases on the consoles but not on the PC - it is always a full moon or the moon is not visible at all.
- There is generally more rubbish and shrubbery on the PC version, mainly for visual effect, most notably in Los Santos - Grove Street certainly has more scenery on the PC - however there are significantly less pre-parked cars on the PC than the console versions.
- The ambient lighting on the PC version is more life-like whilst the console versions maintain a more "smoggy" look - this is particularly evident in Los Santos which maintains an orange hint on the console versions.
- The Shady Industries building in San Fierro was changed to Solarin Industries on the PC, although curiously the various vans around San Andreas maintained the Shady Industries logo and were not changed.
- The targets in the Beefy Baron side mission are referred to as "Berkley's Topfun vans" on the original PS2 release and as "Berkley's delivery vans" on PC.
- The PS2 has a glitched Pay N Spray in Las Venturas which doesn't work properly and is not marked on the radar map, this was completely disabled on the PC although it is possible to mod it back into the game.
- There are a large number of objects in Las Venturas missing from the PC version - mainly outside the Four Dragons Casino and The Visage - this seems to be a simple omission from the map as they are still in the game.
- Helicopters have much better rotor blade looks (using correct alpha) on the consoles, this feature doesn't work on the PC as the code was not implemented correctly.
- There are more pedestrians in the console versions (notably if you go near Gant Bridge) compared to the PC version.
- The statue at the Atrium can be destroyed in the console versions, but it cannot be destroyed in the PC version due to a bug.
- Some cars like Bloodring Banger and Sandking had missing decals due to incorrect alpha.
- The parachute animation was static even when you control the parachute while in the PS2 version the animation was displayed properly.
- Hemlock Tattoo in San Fierro has a unique tattoo selection while in PS2 it uses the same tattoo selection as any other tattoo parlors throughout San Andreas.
- The "Cars Drive in Water" cheat was only implemented in the console versions, while the PC versions doesn't have such cheat code to implement this.
- There are more vehicle spawns in the PS2 version compared to the PC version.
- The drivers became aggressive in the PC version right after you bump into the occupant's car.
- Finally, there is the obvious difference that co-operative play was removed for the PC version, however single-player versions of the consoles' 2-player Rampages can be modded back into the PC version, and in either case code exists for a 2-player pool mini-game in the PC version but it is disabled and can be re-enabled fairly simply - the PC version however does not natively support more than one simultaneous input method/controller so players have to take it it turns to play the game.
In the dating sequences of the game, you can normally conclude proceedings by choosing to leave your girlfriend at her home or entering her house for "coffee", which is treated with a tasteful fade to black. However, the development team had originally implemented another mini-game which allowed you to control what happened inside...
At one stage in development, this feature was disabled with a simple flag and due to time constraints was never removed and so ended up shipping as part of the final retail product. Because there was no outside knowledge of the flag, and thus the sequence was not available, this was not declared to the ESRB since there was no way of players being able to experience it through the normal course of gameplay.
Once the game was released and curious modders started to delve into the game files, the animations, models, textures, sound files and even the code for the sequence were discovered. It was not long before the flag to switch the feature back on was found and thus the resultant Hot Coffee mod and controversy ensued.
You can use this little tool to patch your savegame on any platform to switch the flag and thus enable this functionality.
Within the game files are a texture, model, text and a HUD icon for a skateboard item that would have acted as a combination weapon and vehicle. This feature was dropped during development but eventually made its way into Rockstar's subsequent game Bully.
The following text, from the AMERICAN.GXT file, describes how it would have been used - from the naming convention of these text strings, it can be assumed that the item would first appear instead of the bicycle when leaving Madd Dogg's mansion towards the end of the Madd Dogg's Rhymes mission;-
To use the skateboard pick it up and select it from the weapons inventory items. Press ~k~~PED_ANSWER_PHONE~ whilst over it to pick it up if your inventory is full.
To use the skateboard, select the it from your weapons inventory. Use the movement controls to steer the skateboard. Tapping ~k~~PED_SPRINT~ helps you pick up speed and ~k~~PED_JUMPING~ makes you jump.
There are no animations or supported functionality to re-enable the skateboard as a true weapon and vehicle combination although some very elaborate scripting can give the impression of it as a vehicle you can carry with you. Natively, it can be coded as a weapon (some of the original code remains in the DEFAULT.IDE and WEAPON.DAT files) provided it replaces an existing melee weapon as seen in this mod.
The game also alludes to skateboards with an unused character audio voice set - if VOICE_GEN_WMYSKAT is assigned to any existing character in the PEDS.IDE file that character will use a voice set for a skateboarder - this again is completely unused in the game.
Unused Characters & Models
Get a better picture, some of those models are used.
There are a large number of unused character models in the game. One reason why many of these are not used is that the game was not properly coded to deal with several distinct locales of San Andreas properly - for example, there are models for specific police characters for desert, rural and countryside areas as well as specific motorbike cops for each city, specific taxi drivers for each area, specific drug dealers for each area and many more.
Because of the naming convention and arrays used by the coding, in most cases the absence of these characters meant that their voice and sound files were unused too. In the end, the game only used specific characters for the emergency services in each city and the countryside/desert (this meant police, ambulance and firemen although the same motorcycle cop is used in each city). Curiously, police helicopters do not have a pilot regardless of where you are when being chased by one.
The second version of the Bloodring Banger in GTA Vice City is disturbingly leftover in GTASA's gta3.img While the normal Bloodring Banger is present, this is more likely used as a reference since the only used Bloodring Banger there is a Glendale car too. It only exists as a model, and there is also a handling line present that is very similar to the GTA SA format, which would mean this vehicle was cut late on in development. The fact that the car's interior is messed up could mean a simple error while bringing the car to San Andreas.
Even though it it called FBI Truck in its DFF/TXD and ingame name, a few references make this vehicle also seem its supposed to be used by the SWAT. There is SAPD POLICE markings on it, and the cop radio addresses it as a Police Van ( like the Enforcer). Unlike the Bloodring Banger B, this car is fully functional and can be spawned in a SAMP server as Car ID 528, complete with a invisible siren.
Another cut FBI vehicle is the FBI Car from GTA Vice City, completely redesigned. The overall look of this vehicle would be recycled for the LVPD police car, but some interesting notes about this car is that the siren is located in the back, there are lights on the grille, and uses the VCPD police car interior from Vice City. It only exists as a model located in cutscene.img which might mean it would appear in a unused cutscene (you can actually see a brown version of this car in a in-game cutscene).
A copy of the Rancher car exists as "rnchlure". It's the same as the normal Rancher, but the windows are heavily tinted to obscure the occupants and can't be tuned at all. It can't be obtained by normal means but can be acquired through a in-game cheat. Note that in the mission Lure itself, a normal Rancher is used.
Residual coding from the console versions of the game means that code exists in the PC version that allows 2-players to play against each other at the pool mini game which can be found in the game's bars - this is disabled but is easily re-enabled through the games' proprietary scripting language in the MAIN.SCM and SCRIPT.IMG files. The PC version does not however support more than one simultaneous input method so players have to take it in turns to play the mini game.
Although the code is present, an error in the games' internal scripting means that it is impossible to complete a Quadruple Insane Stunt, even though this can be done and the game supports it through the stats system. The game scripting also skips the portion of this code that allows players to be rewarded for completing Perfect Insane Stunts (Insane Stunts of any degree completed without causing any damage to the vehicle the player used). Both of these can be fixed with knowledge of the games' internal scripting language and the relevant tools.
An external script in the game code (named HOME_BRAINS) also goes unused as it is not attached to any character in the game world. This would have created another character on the streets - a homeless bum - who would have behaved in any one of a random number of ways - begging for money, sitting on the street, urinating or walking around drunk, drinking beer and throwing up. A type of character called "BUM" can be defined in the PEDGROUP.DAT file but this causes a game crash.
As in GTA III and GTA Vice City, the code exists (and works) that supports the use of Adrenaline pickups which allow you to perform feats of great strength in a slowed-down game world however there are no such pickups in San Andreas (an "adrenaline effects" cheat exists to trigger this effect, however). Similarly, the code from GTA Vice City that gave the player a $50 Good Citizen Bonus for stopping criminals that were running from police exists in the game but is not used.
In line with GTA III and GTA Vice City, the game code perfectly supports 3 different types of Bomb Shops - "engine start", "timed" and "remote detonator" however in the game only one type of Bomb Shop is present so you can only obtain the "timed" type.
Most spectacularly - and least known - is the inherent native ability of the game to support additional content, in the form of Mission Packs. This appears to be an experiment by Rockstar and was perhaps the precursor to additional downloadable content. These would comprise of script files (the missions) along with another file containing the text strings required for that mission pack. Because no extra content was ever produced for San Andreas, this feature went relatively unknown for some time and is currently used as the basis of distribution for user created content with the Design Your Own Mission mod. A technical explanation of how this method works can be found at GTA Modding.
In the carmods.dat file, there are some commented out entries for the all the sports bikes in the game and what parts you could have put on them. This was removed early in development, as the parts the game will try to get don't actually exist.
#fcr900, exh_bk_fc_sa, exh_bk_fc_ta, exh_bk_fc_tc, misc_a_bk_fc1, misc_a_bk_fc2, nto_bk_s, nto_bk_tw #bf400, exh_bk_bf_sa, exh_bk_bf_ta, exh_bk_bf_tc, misc_a_bk_bf1, misc_a_bk_bf2, nto_bk_s, nto_bk_tw #nrg500, exh_bk_nr_sa, exh_bk_nr_ta, exh_bk_nr_tc, misc_a_bk_nr1, misc_a_bk_nr2, nto_bk_s, nto_bk_tw #pcj600, exh_bk_pc_sa, exh_bk_pc_ta, exh_bk_pc_tc, misc_a_bk_pc1, misc_a_bk_pc2, nto_bk_s, nto_bk_tw
The game has 7 total gangs that are actually used. 3 of them go completely unused, including the Italian Mafia gang. The other 2 are "placeholder" gangs of some sorts, nothing much was done for them during development and they are simply called Gang 9/10. According to pedgrp.dat the 2 unused gangs would use the character models of the Varios Los Aztecas gang and only drive Sentinel cars according to cargrp.dat. The Mafia gang can actually be encountered without the help of external mods by using a well known glitch, and as you might have guessed, they exist in Las Venturas. They drive Sentinels, Admirals, and Feltzer cars.
################################################## # gridref.dat # # stores which artist deals with map grid areas. # # These names must be the artist's user id # ################################################## # these names MUST!!!! be the artist's bugstar userid any questions see Alex !!!!!!!!!! A1 GARY A2 GARY A3 GARY A4 GARY A5 WAYLAND A6 WAYLAND A7 WAYLAND A8 STUARTM A9 STUARTM A10 STUARTM B1 GARY B2 GARY B3 GARY B4 GARY B5 WAYLAND B6 WAYLAND B7 WAYLAND B8 STUARTM B9 STUARTM B10 STUARTM C1 STUARTM C2 STUARTM C3 STUARTM C4 GARY C5 WAYLAND C6 WAYLAND C7 STUARTM C8 STUARTM C9 STUARTM C10 STUARTM D1 STUARTM D2 STUARTM D3 STUARTM D4 STUARTM D5 STUARTM D6 SCOTT D7 STUARTM D8 STUARTM D9 STUARTM D10 STUARTM E1 STUARTM E2 STUARTM E3 STUARTM E4 STUARTM E5 SCOTT E6 SCOTT E7 STUARTM E8 STUARTM E9 STUARTM E10 STUARTM F1 STUARTM F2 STUARTM F3 STUARTM F4 STUARTM F5 SCOTT F6 SCOTT F7 SCOTT F8 NIK F9 NIK F10 NIK G1 ADAMC G2 ADAMC G3 ANDREWSO G4 ANDREWSO G5 SCOTT G6 SCOTT G7 NIK G8 NIK G9 JIMA G10 JIMA H1 ADAMC H2 ADAMC H3 ANDREWSO H4 ANDREWSO H5 SCOTT H6 SCOTT H7 SIMONL H8 STEVEM H9 STEVEM H10 STEVEM I1 ANDREWSO I2 ANDREWSO I3 ANDREWSO I4 ANDREWSO I5 SCOTT I6 SCOTT I7 SIMONL I8 SIMONL I9 STEVEM I10 STEVEM J1 ANDREWSO J2 ANDREWSO J3 ANDREWSO J4 ANDREWSO J5 SCOTT J6 SCOTT J7 JIMA J8 JIMA J9 STEVEM J10 STEVEM # -eof-
This dat file is found in the data folder. It is a list of which environment artists are responsible for which portions of San Andreas, as split up in a 10x10 grid. The list includes each artist using their Bugstar ID, with Bugstar being Rockstar's internal bug and defect tracking software. This is a list used with debug builds and internal tools to automatically assign a newly created environment bug to the artist responsible for the area it was found in, which is why it is important for the file to use correct Bugstar IDs. Below is a list of the Bugstar IDs used in the file and who they map to.
ADAMC - Adam Cochrane (Lead Artist: Las Venturas)
ANDREWSO - Andrew Soosay (Artist: Las Venturas)
GARY - Gary McAdam (Lead Artist: San Fierro)
JIMA - James Allen (Artist: Los Santos)
NIK - Nik Taylor (Lead Artist: Los Santos)
SCOTT - Scott Wilson (Artist: Countryside)
SIMONL - Simon Little (Artist: Los Santos)
STEVEM - Steven Mulholland (Artist: Los Santos)
STUARTM - Stuart Macdonald (Artist: Countryside)
WAYLAND - Wayland Standing (Artist: San Fierro)
- GTA San Andreas on Grand Theft Wiki
- GTA:SA Hidden Text FAQ on GameFAQs
- Things To Do In San Andreas: Overall Improvements - a mod that recreates pretty much most of the unused content
- PS2 to PC Index for GTA San Andreas - a mod that restores a lot of missing or changed elements that were ended up when porting to the PC version from the console versions, mainly PlayStation 2.
- Rockstar Games' Official Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas website
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|Game Boy Color||Grand Theft Auto 2|
|Game Boy Advance||Grand Theft Auto Advance|
|Windows||Grand Theft Auto III • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|
|PlayStation 2||Grand Theft Auto III • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories|
|PlayStation Portable||Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories|
|iOS / Android||Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas|
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