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Hyrule Warriors Unused Jiggle Physics

So Cia, Ruto, True Form Midna, and others in Hyrule Warriors seem to be jiggleboned, as their....ahem, parts, aren't displaying properly in the model viewer, which indicates they're jigglebones. Unless it's very subtle, they don't appear to move ingame. Perhaps Nintendo toned down the sexualization? Here are some pictures I took. Take note of how dresses and other clothes that move aren't displaying properly as well. Fairy, True Form Midna, Cia, Ruto, Lana Guardian of Time Outfit (she's not jiggleboned normally) Well? Any thoughts? Robotortoise (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2015 (EST)

Go back and play the game again. --M64m (talk) 18:33, 7 February 2015 (EST)

Censored Gaming

I'm too busy to help but you guys should check out our YouTube channel and start transferring the info over to here. It reports on video game censorship and there's 100s of examples of regional/platform differences, most of which are not featured here, with 1000s more to come. Figured it would be useful to the site's progress and so wanted some of the main editors here to be aware of it. These playlists would be a good start: Keep up the good work! --CensoredGaming (talk) 17:44, 9 March 2015 (EDT)

No offense, but it seems kind of shady when you say "NOT SPAM" before talking about your own channel. Just saying. Anyways, can't you please just post a list of the notable things in your videos and we'll look into it? Robotortoise (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2015 (EDT)
I really don't have the time, sorry. Every video features something that should be included on here. My personal favourite regional difference would be from Pilotwings 64:
Non-Japanese versions censor an Easter egg in Everfrost Island where there is the face of Jesus Christ from the Turin Shroud hidden inside a cave. It's up to you anyway, lots of screenshots or whatever are in order (or links if you wish). This side of the channel strives for documentation as its primary purpose so I'm trying to help you out the best I can to further document this info. Sorry I can't be of anymore help. Took the disclaimer out. --CensoredGaming (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2015 (EDT)
Feel free to ignore Robotortoise, as their views do not match those of the wiki's actual staff. Thanks for the info! We're generally pretty busy ourselves, but we'll try to take a look at what you've got whenever we have the chance. --BMF54123 (talk) 03:44, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
Here's a pastebin of the changes shown in the videos, sorted by game. Slowly removing the ones already on the wiki. -Einstein95 (talk) 03:51, 10 March 2015 (EDT)

Mii Plaza regional differences

Apparently the Mii Plaza has some differences in text and graphical options to comply with EU law, compared to the US version: Robotortoise (talk) 04:11, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

I never would have noticed this had this page not been linked on the IRC. I'll look into getting better screenshots of it and add it to my Nintendo 3DS page. --Team Fail (talk) 02:40, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

Mass Effect category glitch

What's up with this? Robotortoise (talk) 02:34, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

What about it? -Einstein95 (talk) 02:41, 20 April 2015 (EDT)
The four consoles are all used in one page (through the system template). Thus, the series template reflects upon this by having the page listed four times. If anything, this is more redundancy in the series template than an actual glitch. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 02:47, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

Spoiler Tag on top of page, akin to stub tags

I feel for certain games that are exceptionally story-driven, we should have a "major spoiler" tag. It's not explicitly stated anywhere on the site, and a reader following a hyperlink from a news site or an uninformed person might accidentally stumble upon a major spoiler. I'm only talking about plot twist type of deals here. Like, a major character dies type of plot twist. Or someone is secretly something else. That kind of thing. I know it seems kind of redundant, but I think it'd be helpful. Robotortoise (talk) 01:02, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

I'm personally not interested, since TCRF articles are very often spoilery by nature and we already have a ton of tags, but if there's enough demand I guess we can work something out. --BMF54123 (talk) 06:19, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
It's part of the nature of unused content. It can be about anything, from it a simple "test" image to an alternate model for a final boss. After being on TCRF for a while, one understands that quite easily, and can avoid spoilers without even trying (or being catching one before learning). But Robo makes a good point: people coming from external places that don't even know what TCRF is about might be in for some nasty surprises, if they're not mentally prepared about a potential spoiler danger. {EspyoT} 14:17, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
I think a front page warning would be fine as an alternative to a tag. The only problem then is if someone, like a "news" site, hotlinks an article, then they could easily miss the warning. Robotortoise (talk) 01:59, 8 May 2015 (EDT)
I think this would be a great idea. Articles like the Undertale one have major spoilers, and it would be great if there was some kind of spoiler tag, which is better than a warning on the main site imo, since some articles don't contain spoilers, people who want to avoid spoilers can avoid those articles with the tag specifically instead of having to guess if they contain major spoilers. I'm totally in for that idea! --Anton Cool Guy (talk) 03:24, 3 January 2017 (EST)

Broken Age

Broken Age has an unused placeholder audio file located at audio.pck/Win/Audio/Voice/Voice_stub.fsb/test.mp3. There's also quite a few Lua scripts with the word "Debug" in them. Perhaps the debug menu is still functional? These files can be viewed with Double Fine Explorer. Robotortoise (talk) 01:13, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

Did you know typo

The fact "Did you know...that in Serious Sam 3: BFE, a giant invincible scorpion will spawn if the game detects that it's a pirate copy?" should say PIRATED copy, not "pirate copy." Robotortoise (talk) 03:39, 10 May 2015 (EDT) --Devin (talk) 03:40, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
Huh. Didn't know it could be an adjective without the "d". Robotortoise (talk) 13:44, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
The fact "...that Mario Party and Pokémon Stadium planned to support the N64 Disk Drive?" needs TLOZ:OOT added. Because it did too.


I've created a BRAINSTORMING page with Xkeeper's blessing. Throw your ideas for TCRF there! It's like a "suggestion" box, except people will actually read it! Robotortoise (talk) 03:03, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Editor Bug

I'm trying to edit the page of New Super Mario Bros Wii. to add some gifs of the early Prickly Goomba animations, but I always get this error when I press the edit button. What should I do? The preceding unsigned comment was added by EpicMario50 (talk) • (contribs)

Click "Edit Source" instead or turn off the visualeditor in user prieferences --Xk-sig.png Xkeeper (talk) 15:18, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

New redesign

I love it! It looks a lot cleaner, and there's more features. Thanks, guys! Always happy to see the wiki updated. Robotortoise (talk) 16:48, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

Search Bug

Like I was talking about on Jul, some queries in the TCRF search box mysteriously fail with "There were no results matching the query.". For example the word "however". Even though other common words like "the" and "and" display fine. Is this a known issue? Theclaw (talk) 21:15, 24 August 2015 (EDT)

The search on TCRF itself has always been...passable, at best. It's kind of slow, doesn't return results for user subpages, and many times doesn't return quite what you're looking for. A workaround is to use the query however on a search engine like Google, though that's...not exactly a solution. If the admins wanted to, they could integrate Google Site Search, but that would add, well, ads, albiet text ones, to the queries. It would, however, also make the searches much better. So there's that. Some small ads are no big deal vs. a better search engine. But maybe there's a better alternative than Google Site Search? Robotortoise (talk) 01:16, 21 September 2015 (EDT)
You can always search for "all:My Search Terms" *shrug*. {EspyoT} 14:28, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

TCRF Sourcing

IMHO, I don't think it's very clear to visitors that a lot of findings on TCRF are researched/found by the users themselves. After all, many sites using the MediaWiki template just use other sources. Should we have a disclaimer on the index that says "Unless otherwise noted, all content found here is original research?"

Someone I know who uses TCRF a lot had this idea:

""Would you guys consider labeling who discovered what on the main wiki pages themselves? From what I've seen, the current TCRF method is that people should assume the content appeared first on TCRF unless specified otherwise. Would it be possible to turn that upside down, and specify who found what next to the content so it's easier to credit people and see what content is originally from TCRF? Something to the effect of (Source: user _____) if it's a new discovery on TCRF, or (Source: if it's from somewhere else. I know that could take a lot of work to retroactively implement, so I understand if it's out of the question.""

She said the current system has people wanting to source going through the edits until the see the relevant info added, which can take (for some articles)an insane amount of time. It seems like it would be a good idea to start crediting users themselves, for the benefit of sites that like to cite TCRF (like Did you Know Gaming, which spawned this whole debate, and they said they had difficulty finding sources as well), for TCRF itself, (if users see an user on TCRF as a source, they may get curious and visit the page) and for the users themselves, so they can stake the claim that they found it first. :)

Thoughts? Robotortoise (talk) 13:17, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

Some pages already do use {{source}} to point an external source, and a few users do use that template to credit themselves when they're the finders. I agree we should make this commonplace in all pages. You know, except for things like level select cheat codes that have been known since the dawn of time. We could either have each section use the template, or have a list with all the credits at the end. We (the editors at large, so to speak) just never got into the culture of self-crediting, I suppose. I never did it for me because I don't like feeling arrogant. But if it's for the good of crediting people who deserve it, and to avoid having mis-attributions from other places, I'm all in favor of having everybody get their rightful credits. {EspyoT} 14:28, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

File Size Limits

The upload page says the file size limit is 20 MB, but obviously that's untrue, as it won't even let you upload a 6 MB GIF. What IS the true file size limit? I'm sick of uploading a GIF and having it tell me the file is too large.Robotortoise (talk) 15:58, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

Prerelease Image Edits

First question: is it ok to resize a scanned image in order to correct the aspect radio? Second question: is it ok to upload a scanned image in JPG format even if it is originally avaible as PNG? --Crocodile91 (talk) 17:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)

I would say the answer to both is "No". For the first one, it's better to have images in their original format. People can resize it later and create a comparison if they want to. For the second one, there's no way of knowing whether the image was originally scanned as a PNG, or if someone converted a JPG to a PNG (not the smartest thing to do, but it happens). If it's a JPG-converted-to-a-PNG, then converting it back to a JPG will only add more noise to the image. -- Bast (talk) 21:55, 22 November 2015 (EST)
Ok, thanks. I was wondering if replacing the images in this page: Prerelease:Pokémon Red and Blue and so I did just now. --Crocodile91 (talk) 09:00, 23 November 2015 (EST)


I discovered a cool little MediaWiki extension that allow users to "thank" other users and give little virtual "gifts" to show their appreciation. The plugin is called WikiLove.

WikiLove allows users to send and receive "awards" to other users. If this was implemented, users could make various video game items/objects the "awards". (For instance, Super Mario 64's cactus, a Super Star, a Smash Ball, etc.)

I think it could be really fun and easy to configure, and as long as was user-editable, the "awards" would be added, removed, etc. by us users. It wouldn't result in much work for the admins aside from the initial installation, as far as I'm aware.

The plugin is opt-in on an user-by-user basis, so users would not get annoyed at it.

Robotortoise (talk) 17:58, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Nice idea. I think this would bring satisfaction to the contributors, and thus increase productivity. --Crocodile91 (talk) 18:50, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Pateron not on donation page

The Pateron donation page is not listed on the TCRF internal donation page. I can't edit it, as it is not user-editable. Presumably, an admin can. Robotortoise (talk) 21:00, 6 December 2015 (EST)

I'm new, but I found some new unused info from WWE 2K15

A friend of mine (named "super smash" on YouTube) was digging through WWE 2K15's PC files, until he found this:Aiden English's 1st Titantron. Aiden English was gonna be in 2K15... he probably got cut, similar to Trish Stratus. He's in WWE 2K16 now, same with Trish.

BTW, I'm new.The preceding unsigned comment was added by DamonStrydeWWE (talk) • (contribs)

Does said content exist on the PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 versions? The current page only applies to said platforms, so if it only exists on the PC version, it'll need a separate page. Phrossi (talk) 11:02, 23 December 2015 (EST)

Upload Editor not allowing files over 5-ish MB

TCRF Filesize woes.png

Seriously, this happens for any file over like...5 MB. Can it please be fixed? I can't compress the GIF any more than that... Robotortoise (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2016 (EST)

Try to compress the .GIF file with this utility: --Crocodile91 (talk) 05:39, 4 January 2016 (EST)
Thanks, I eventually got it. I just wish the file size limit was accurate is all. Apparently it's closer to 10 MB than 20. Robotortoise (talk) 16:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)
...Great. It did it again. I need to upload two GIFs, one of which is 7.28 MB, and one which is 8.16 MB. Neither will upload. Can we get an accurate number on the uploader file size limit? What is it, 10 MB? 5 MB? Depends on file type? Cause it sure as heck ain't 20 MB! Robotortoise (talk) 17:00, 14 February 2016 (EST)
Why don't you just upload the GIFs to YouTube? Smoke (talk) 17:35, 14 February 2016 (EST)
The GIF is like...3 seconds long. It'd be silly to upload it to Youtube for that. And that's not the root of the problem, anyways. The problem is the file size limit is inaccurate, and it's BEEN inaccurate for at least a year now. No one is willing to take the three seconds to edit the file size limit on the page to "5 MB" or whatever it truly is. Robotortoise (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2016 (EST)

Tropico 4 kiosk demo disc

I recently got a Tropico 4 kiosk (in-store demo) disc. Is there a legit Xbox 360 emulator? I can't afford to buy a PAL Xbox.The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeniaul (talk) • (contribs)

There's xenia, but it's mostly experimental, so most likely no. Phrossi (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2016 (EST)
I've now got Tropico 4 AND The Last Templar. Also, they don't pull up an error when played on an NTSC console. Can I post images (ROM-like, not pictures...) of both on TCRF, or is that not allowed? Yeniaul (talk)

I can't pley ogg player

It happeneds on Mac OSX and Windown 10. The OGG Player is broken. It won't show up. I can't dwnload it either! If I can fix it, tell me how. -Sky Yoshi (talk) 03:36, 7 January 2016 (EST)

What web browsers did you use for Mac and Windows? -Ehm (talk) 00:30, 6 January 2016 (EST)
Eh... Mac is Safari, and Windows is Microsoft Edge. -Sky Yoshi (talk) 03:34, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Try Firefox or Chrome on Windows. -Ehm (talk) 03:38, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Oh! IT worked! Thank you for that! -Sky Yoshi (talk) 09:05, 7 January 2016 (EST)

Are unused cars treated as characters or what?

Should unused cars in racing games be treated as unused characters, or as something else? Right now only Re-Volt (Windows) treats unused cars as unused characters in the bob. FMecha (talk) 08:05, 29 January 2016 (EST)

Game Genie to Pro Action Replay

I know that there's many gameboy articles to use Game Genie code but, there's just a bit article that uses Pro Action Replay codes. But, Japanese like me can't get Game Genie so, why they use Game Genie codes? I know that we can make PAR code with same effct with GG codes but... Sorry for my bad English. -Sky Yoshi (talk) 23:48, 6 February 2016 (EST)

It's because the Game Genie modifies the game itself (ie. the ROM) while the Action replay modifies the RAM. The choice of Game Genie codes mainly is due to the person who added them, as emulators can easily use either code. -Einstein95 (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2016 (EST)
Thank you for explaning. but, is there any cheat tools that modifies the rom or something which is easy to buy? -Sky Yoshi (talk) 01:14, 7 February 2016 (EST)

Image scaling

So Wikipedia has an image tag feature called "upright='size'". I'm assuming this is a part of MediaWiki, or...something. Anyways, it seems to be an updated version of the "'size'px" image tag. It scales based on each user's device and user preferences, rather than based on whatever pixel count you enter. Plus, it's a bit easier to use, as you don't have to manually base it off the pixel size of the image, it scales automatically for you. ...However, it's not working on TCRF. All the MediaWiki extensions seem to be up to date as far as I can tell, aside from MediaWiki itself. Why isn't "upright='size'" working, I wonder...? Robotortoise (talk) 16:43, 26 March 2016 (EDT)

Can anybody add something

Can anyone add Jakers! Let's Explore to this wiki buy the disc online at Amazon and try to find the unused files.The preceding unsigned comment was added by MsYoshiMii (talk) • (contribs)

PC or Wii? -Einstein95 (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2016 (EDT)

Zelda Missing Page?

"A The Legend of Zelda Prototype was dumped and released on December 25th, 2010. It's a late build of the game: the game can be completed, but the Second Quest has just barely been started. Nevertheless, there are a great amount of room alterations, both on the overworld and in the nine dungeons. Some of the game's iconic enemies have different designs, shops have different items in stock, and a significant amount of music hasn't been composed yet. Overall, the prototype is a lot more forgiving than the final version: it's much easier to get rupees, and enemy placement and difficulty isn't quite as evil. It's worth checking out for anyone interested in learning about the game's development."

May I ask where the page this text is from is? The link at the end only takes you to a the list of changes. Elements (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

That text was specifically written for the Featured Article description. It will only show up on the front page. -Ehm (talk) 12:55, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

Google Chrome Extension For tcrf

I was wondering if I could create a Google Chrome extension for TCRF. Would that be OK? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Balloon1009 (talk) • (contribs)

What specifically are you planning with that extension? Something like this extension for Wikipedia?--From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 04:30, 17 April 2016 (EDT)
Exactly like that. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Balloon1009 (talk) • (contribs)
I'm all up for it. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 20:38, 17 April 2016 (EDT)

Translation Image

The current image for "Needs Translation" is rather odd-looking.


The cactus in the background makes it look like the image has artifacting.

Would something like this work better? (Except with kanji in the textbox)

Possible Translation Image.png

Robotortoise (talk) 15:23, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Something like this?
-- Cdic-sig.png ( Cdudeiscool | contribs ) 16:32, 3 August 2016 (EDT)
The current image is fine, thanks. --BMF54123 (talk) 02:43, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

Going off a very old rumor aboutApe Escape 3)

I have quite distinct memories of an old hacker buddy of mine exclaiming how Ape Escape 3 has old file names pertaining to the two protagonists in the last two games, as well as inaccesible, unused rooms in Kung Fu Street. I unfortunately have no way of testing this myself, nor do I know if it a reliable source. At the very least, there has to be major regional differences in the game. It practically screams Japanese. (If I did this wrong, please tell me. I'm extremely new here.)The preceding unsigned comment was added by EmberTheFlareon (talk) • (contribs)

The filename one can be checked by putting the disc on your computer; since PS2 discs are DVDs with a file header beyond the normal limit for one, you can peek in the files very easily. For the rooms, you can use a moonjump GS/CB code (if there's one) or some camera hack. As for the regional differences, you need discs from all the regions (Japan (NTSC-J), US (NTSC-U) and Europe (PAL)). -Phrossi (talk) 11:40, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

Sam and Max: The Devil's Toybox (Season 3)

So, the Nutrition Specs that are PS3 exclusive can actually be added to the PC version, though only in episode 1.

Edit: For using the specs on the Pudding Lincoln head in the subway, you recieve a blue card with a website link. The website no longer exists, unfortunately.

There is a slot on Max's wheel that in all other chapters goes unused. This is where the Nutrition Specs used to be. Perhaps it was planned for other chapters?

In addition, the voice saying 'Nutrition Specs' does not sound the same as the other psychic toys.

I will do some additional poking and prodding and see if I can create a page on the found information.

Site Oddities

Every time I try to connect with a DS or DSi Browser (Opera-based), the site IMMEDIATELY errors out with "The site refused the connection". Anyone have any clue what happened? Did someone DDOS with Opera or something? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeniaul (talk) • (contribs)

The certificate for TCRF no longer accept DS or DSi connections through Opera. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 20:09, 23 June 2016 (EDT)
To expand on what Divingkataetheweirdo said, TCRF moved to the "Let's Encrypt" system of generating its TLS certificates. The Let's Encrypt TLS keys are unfortunately known not to work in the 3DS browser because Nintendo has not added the root certificate that it uses to the browser yet. This is a limitation of the 3DS browser, so unfortunately only Nintendo can fix this. -- Bast (talk) 05:01, 24 June 2016 (EDT)
And also the DS/i and Wii browsers due to no longer receiving updates from Nintendo. -Einstein95 (talk) 05:12, 24 June 2016 (EDT)