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Archive 1
from 5/5/13
Archive 2
from 2/7/15

Hyrule Warriors Unused Jiggle Physics

So Cia, Ruto, True Form Midna, and others in Hyrule Warriors seem to be jiggleboned, as their....ahem, parts, aren't displaying properly in the model viewer, which indicates they're jigglebones. Unless it's very subtle, they don't appear to move ingame. Perhaps Nintendo toned down the sexualization? Here are some pictures I took. Take note of how dresses and other clothes that move aren't displaying properly as well. Fairy, True Form Midna, Cia, Ruto, Lana Guardian of Time Outfit (she's not jiggleboned normally) Well? Any thoughts? Robotortoise (talk) 15:38, 7 February 2015 (EST)

Go back and play the game again. --M64m (talk) 18:33, 7 February 2015 (EST)

Censored Gaming

I'm too busy to help but you guys should check out our YouTube channel and start transferring the info over to here. It reports on video game censorship and there's 100s of examples of regional/platform differences, most of which are not featured here, with 1000s more to come. Figured it would be useful to the site's progress and so wanted some of the main editors here to be aware of it. These playlists would be a good start: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFItIX8SIs4zqhJCHpbeV1A/playlists?shelf_id=7&sort=dd&view=50 Keep up the good work! --CensoredGaming (talk) 17:44, 9 March 2015 (EDT)

No offense, but it seems kind of shady when you say "NOT SPAM" before talking about your own channel. Just saying. Anyways, can't you please just post a list of the notable things in your videos and we'll look into it? Robotortoise (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2015 (EDT)
I really don't have the time, sorry. Every video features something that should be included on here. My personal favourite regional difference would be from Pilotwings 64:
Non-Japanese versions censor an Easter egg in Everfrost Island where there is the face of Jesus Christ from the Turin Shroud hidden inside a cave. It's up to you anyway, lots of screenshots or whatever are in order (or links if you wish). This side of the channel strives for documentation as its primary purpose so I'm trying to help you out the best I can to further document this info. Sorry I can't be of anymore help. Took the disclaimer out. --CensoredGaming (talk) 19:39, 9 March 2015 (EDT)
Feel free to ignore Robotortoise, as their views do not match those of the wiki's actual staff. Thanks for the info! We're generally pretty busy ourselves, but we'll try to take a look at what you've got whenever we have the chance. --BMF54123 (talk) 03:44, 10 March 2015 (EDT)
Here's a pastebin of the changes shown in the videos, sorted by game. Slowly removing the ones already on the wiki. -Einstein95 (talk) 03:51, 10 March 2015 (EDT)

Mii Plaza regional differences

Apparently the Mii Plaza has some differences in text and graphical options to comply with EU law, compared to the US version: http://bitparade.co.uk/article.php?id=3682 Robotortoise (talk) 04:11, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

I never would have noticed this had this page not been linked on the IRC. I'll look into getting better screenshots of it and add it to my Nintendo 3DS page. --Team Fail (talk) 02:40, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

Mass Effect category glitch

What's up with this? http://i.imgur.com/BqDAvvQ.png Robotortoise (talk) 02:34, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

What about it? -Einstein95 (talk) 02:41, 20 April 2015 (EDT)
The four consoles are all used in one page (through the system template). Thus, the series template reflects upon this by having the page listed four times. If anything, this is more redundancy in the series template than an actual glitch. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 02:47, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

Spoiler Tag on top of page, akin to stub tags

I feel for certain games that are exceptionally story-driven, we should have a "major spoiler" tag. It's not explicitly stated anywhere on the site, and a reader following a hyperlink from a news site or an uninformed person might accidentally stumble upon a major spoiler. I'm only talking about plot twist type of deals here. Like, a major character dies type of plot twist. Or someone is secretly something else. That kind of thing. I know it seems kind of redundant, but I think it'd be helpful. Robotortoise (talk) 01:02, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

I'm personally not interested, since TCRF articles are very often spoilery by nature and we already have a ton of tags, but if there's enough demand I guess we can work something out. --BMF54123 (talk) 06:19, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
It's part of the nature of unused content. It can be about anything, from it a simple "test" image to an alternate model for a final boss. After being on TCRF for a while, one understands that quite easily, and can avoid spoilers without even trying (or being catching one before learning). But Robo makes a good point: people coming from external places that don't even know what TCRF is about might be in for some nasty surprises, if they're not mentally prepared about a potential spoiler danger. {EspyoT} 14:17, 7 May 2015 (EDT)
I think a front page warning would be fine as an alternative to a tag. The only problem then is if someone, like a "news" site, hotlinks an article, then they could easily miss the warning. Robotortoise (talk) 01:59, 8 May 2015 (EDT)
I think this would be a great idea. Articles like the Undertale one have major spoilers, and it would be great if there was some kind of spoiler tag, which is better than a warning on the main site imo, since some articles don't contain spoilers, people who want to avoid spoilers can avoid those articles with the tag specifically instead of having to guess if they contain major spoilers. I'm totally in for that idea! --Anton Cool Guy (talk) 03:24, 3 January 2017 (EST)

Broken Age

Broken Age has an unused placeholder audio file located at audio.pck/Win/Audio/Voice/Voice_stub.fsb/test.mp3. There's also quite a few Lua scripts with the word "Debug" in them. Perhaps the debug menu is still functional? These files can be viewed with Double Fine Explorer. Robotortoise (talk) 01:13, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

Did you know typo

The fact "Did you know...that in Serious Sam 3: BFE, a giant invincible scorpion will spawn if the game detects that it's a pirate copy?" should say PIRATED copy, not "pirate copy." Robotortoise (talk) 03:39, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pirate#Adjective --Devin (talk) 03:40, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
Huh. Didn't know it could be an adjective without the "d". Robotortoise (talk) 13:44, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
The fact "...that Mario Party and Pokémon Stadium planned to support the N64 Disk Drive?" needs TLOZ:OOT added. Because it did too. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeniaul (talk • contribs) 22:41, 2016 January 28


I've created a BRAINSTORMING page with Xkeeper's blessing. Throw your ideas for TCRF there! It's like a "suggestion" box, except people will actually read it! Robotortoise (talk) 03:03, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Editor Bug

I'm trying to edit the page of New Super Mario Bros Wii. to add some gifs of the early Prickly Goomba animations, but I always get this error when I press the edit button. http://prntscr.com/7jlr3t What should I do? The preceding unsigned comment was added by EpicMario50 (talk • contribs)

Click "Edit Source" instead or turn off the visualeditor in user prieferences --Xk-sig.png Xkeeper (talk) 15:18, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

New redesign

I love it! It looks a lot cleaner, and there's more features. Thanks, guys! Always happy to see the wiki updated. Robotortoise (talk) 16:48, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

Search Bug

Like I was talking about on Jul, some queries in the TCRF search box mysteriously fail with "There were no results matching the query.". For example the word "however". Even though other common words like "the" and "and" display fine. Is this a known issue? Theclaw (talk) 21:15, 24 August 2015 (EDT)

The search on TCRF itself has always been...passable, at best. It's kind of slow, doesn't return results for user subpages, and many times doesn't return quite what you're looking for. A workaround is to use the query site:tcrf.net however on a search engine like Google, though that's...not exactly a solution. If the admins wanted to, they could integrate Google Site Search, but that would add, well, ads, albiet text ones, to the queries. It would, however, also make the searches much better. So there's that. But...eh. Some small ads are no big deal vs. a better search engine. But maybe there's a better alternative than Google Site Search? Robotortoise (talk) 01:16, 21 September 2015 (EDT)
You can always search for "all:My Search Terms" *shrug*. {EspyoT} 14:28, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

TCRF Sourcing

IMHO, I don't think it's very clear to visitors that a lot of findings on TCRF are researched/found by the users themselves. After all, many sites using the MediaWiki template just use other sources. Should we have a disclaimer on the index that says "Unless otherwise noted, all content found here is original research?"

Someone I know who uses TCRF a lot had this idea:

""Would you guys consider labeling who discovered what on the main wiki pages themselves? From what I've seen, the current TCRF method is that people should assume the content appeared first on TCRF unless specified otherwise. Would it be possible to turn that upside down, and specify who found what next to the content so it's easier to credit people and see what content is originally from TCRF? Something to the effect of (Source: user _____) if it's a new discovery on TCRF, or (Source: www.website.com) if it's from somewhere else. I know that could take a lot of work to retroactively implement, so I understand if it's out of the question.""

She said the current system has people wanting to source going through the edits until the see the relevant info added, which can take (for some articles)an insane amount of time. It seems like it would be a good idea to start crediting users themselves, for the benefit of sites that like to cite TCRF (like Did you Know Gaming, which spawned this whole debate, and they said they had difficulty finding sources as well), for TCRF itself, (if users see an user on TCRF as a source, they may get curious and visit the page) and for the users themselves, so they can stake the claim that they found it first. :)

Thoughts? Robotortoise (talk) 13:17, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

Some pages already do use {{source}} to point an external source, and a few users do use that template to credit themselves when they're the finders. I agree we should make this commonplace in all pages. You know, except for things like level select cheat codes that have been known since the dawn of time. We could either have each section use the template, or have a list with all the credits at the end. We (the editors at large, so to speak) just never got into the culture of self-crediting, I suppose. I never did it for me because I don't like feeling arrogant. But if it's for the good of crediting people who deserve it, and to avoid having mis-attributions from other places, I'm all in favor of having everybody get their rightful credits. {EspyoT} 14:28, 21 September 2015 (EDT)

File Size Limits

The upload page says the file size limit is 20 MB, but obviously that's untrue, as it won't even let you upload a 6 MB GIF. What IS the true file size limit? I'm sick of uploading a GIF and having it tell me the file is too large.Robotortoise (talk) 15:58, 7 October 2015 (EDT)

Prerelease Image Edits

First question: is it ok to resize a scanned image in order to correct the aspect radio? Second question: is it ok to upload a scanned image in JPG format even if it is originally avaible as PNG? --Crocodile91 (talk) 17:23, 22 November 2015 (EST)

I would say the answer to both is "No". For the first one, it's better to have images in their original format. People can resize it later and create a comparison if they want to. For the second one, there's no way of knowing whether the image was originally scanned as a PNG, or if someone converted a JPG to a PNG (not the smartest thing to do, but it happens). If it's a JPG-converted-to-a-PNG, then converting it back to a JPG will only add more noise to the image. -- Bast (talk) 21:55, 22 November 2015 (EST)
Ok, thanks. I was wondering if replacing the images in this page: Prerelease:Pokémon Red and Blue and so I did just now. --Crocodile91 (talk) 09:00, 23 November 2015 (EST)


I discovered a cool little MediaWiki extension that allow users to "thank" other users and give little virtual "gifts" to show their appreciation. The plugin is called WikiLove.

WikiLove allows users to send and receive "awards" to other users. If this was implemented, users could make various video game items/objects the "awards". (For instance, Super Mario 64's cactus, a Super Star, a Smash Ball, etc.)

I think it could be really fun and easy to configure, and as long as https://tcrf.net/wiki/MediaWiki:WikiLove.js was user-editable, the "awards" would be added, removed, etc. by us users. It wouldn't result in much work for the admins aside from the initial installation, as far as I'm aware.

The plugin is opt-in on an user-by-user basis, so users would not get annoyed at it.

Robotortoise (talk) 17:58, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Nice idea. I think this would bring satisfaction to the contributors, and thus increase productivity. --Crocodile91 (talk) 18:50, 5 December 2015 (EST)

Pateron not on donation page

The Pateron donation page is not listed on the TCRF internal donation page. I can't edit it, as it is not user-editable. Presumably, an admin can. Robotortoise (talk) 21:00, 6 December 2015 (EST)

I'm new, but I found some new unused info from WWE 2K15

A friend of mine (named "super smash" on YouTube) was digging through WWE 2K15's PC files, until he found this:Aiden English's 1st Titantron. Aiden English was gonna be in 2K15... he probably got cut, similar to Trish Stratus. He's in WWE 2K16 now, same with Trish.

BTW, I'm new.The preceding unsigned comment was added by DamonStrydeWWE (talk • contribs)

Does said content exist on the PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 versions? The current page only applies to said platforms, so if it only exists on the PC version, it'll need a separate page. Phrossi (talk) 11:02, 23 December 2015 (EST)

Upload Editor not allowing files over 5-ish MB

TCRF Filesize woes.png

Seriously, this happens for any file over like...5 MB. Can it please be fixed? I can't compress the GIF any more than that... Robotortoise (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2016 (EST)

Try to compress the .GIF file with this utility: http://chemware.co.nz/tgo.htm --Crocodile91 (talk) 05:39, 4 January 2016 (EST)
Thanks, I eventually got it. I just wish the file size limit was accurate is all. Apparently it's closer to 10 MB than 20. Robotortoise (talk) 16:08, 11 January 2016 (EST)
...Great. It did it again. I need to upload two GIFs, one of which is 7.28 MB, and one which is 8.16 MB. Neither will upload. Can we get an accurate number on the uploader file size limit? What is it, 10 MB? 5 MB? Depends on file type? Cause it sure as heck ain't 20 MB! Robotortoise (talk) 17:00, 14 February 2016 (EST)
Why don't you just upload the GIFs to YouTube? Smoke (talk) 17:35, 14 February 2016 (EST)
The GIF is like...3 seconds long. It'd be silly to upload it to Youtube for that. And that's not the root of the problem, anyways. The problem is the file size limit is inaccurate, and it's BEEN inaccurate for at least a year now. No one is willing to take the three seconds to edit the file size limit on the page to "5 MB" or whatever it truly is. Robotortoise (talk) 19:30, 14 February 2016 (EST)

Tropico 4 kiosk demo disc

I recently got a Tropico 4 kiosk (in-store demo) disc. Is there a legit Xbox 360 emulator? I can't afford to buy a PAL Xbox.The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeniaul (talk • contribs)

There's xenia, but it's mostly experimental, so most likely no. Phrossi (talk) 18:26, 5 January 2016 (EST)
I've now got Tropico 4 AND The Last Templar. Also, they don't pull up an error when played on an NTSC console. Can I post images (ROM-like, not pictures...) of both on TCRF, or is that not allowed? Yeniaul (talk)

I can't pley ogg player

It happeneds on Mac OSX and Windown 10. The OGG Player is broken. It won't show up. I can't dwnload it either! If I can fix it, tell me how. -Sky Yoshi (talk) 03:36, 7 January 2016 (EST)

What web browsers did you use for Mac and Windows? -Ehm (talk) 00:30, 6 January 2016 (EST)
Eh... Mac is Safari, and Windows is Microsoft Edge. -Sky Yoshi (talk) 03:34, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Try Firefox or Chrome on Windows. -Ehm (talk) 03:38, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Oh! IT worked! Thank you for that! -Sky Yoshi (talk) 09:05, 7 January 2016 (EST)

Are unused cars treated as characters or what?

Should unused cars in racing games be treated as unused characters, or as something else? Right now only Re-Volt (Windows) treats unused cars as unused characters in the bob. FMecha (talk) 08:05, 29 January 2016 (EST)

Game Genie to Pro Action Replay

I know that there's many gameboy articles to use Game Genie code but, there's just a bit article that uses Pro Action Replay codes. But, Japanese like me can't get Game Genie so, why they use Game Genie codes? I know that we can make PAR code with same effct with GG codes but... Sorry for my bad English. -Sky Yoshi (talk) 23:48, 6 February 2016 (EST)

It's because the Game Genie modifies the game itself (ie. the ROM) while the Action replay modifies the RAM. The choice of Game Genie codes mainly is due to the person who added them, as emulators can easily use either code. -Einstein95 (talk) 23:52, 6 February 2016 (EST)
Thank you for explaning. but, is there any cheat tools that modifies the rom or something which is easy to buy? -Sky Yoshi (talk) 01:14, 7 February 2016 (EST)

Image scaling

So Wikipedia has an image tag feature called "upright='size'". I'm assuming this is a part of MediaWiki, or...something. Anyways, it seems to be an updated version of the "'size'px" image tag. It scales based on each user's device and user preferences, rather than based on whatever pixel count you enter. Plus, it's a bit easier to use, as you don't have to manually base it off the pixel size of the image, it scales automatically for you. ...However, it's not working on TCRF. All the MediaWiki extensions seem to be up to date as far as I can tell, aside from MediaWiki itself. Why isn't "upright='size'" working, I wonder...? Robotortoise (talk) 16:43, 26 March 2016 (EDT)

Can anybody add something

Can anyone add Jakers! Let's Explore to this wiki buy the disc online at Amazon and try to find the unused files.The preceding unsigned comment was added by MsYoshiMii (talk • contribs)

PC or Wii? -Einstein95 (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2016 (EDT)

Zelda Missing Page?

"A The Legend of Zelda Prototype was dumped and released on December 25th, 2010. It's a late build of the game: the game can be completed, but the Second Quest has just barely been started. Nevertheless, there are a great amount of room alterations, both on the overworld and in the nine dungeons. Some of the game's iconic enemies have different designs, shops have different items in stock, and a significant amount of music hasn't been composed yet. Overall, the prototype is a lot more forgiving than the final version: it's much easier to get rupees, and enemy placement and difficulty isn't quite as evil. It's worth checking out for anyone interested in learning about the game's development."

May I ask where the page this text is from is? The link at the end only takes you to a the list of changes. Elements (talk) 12:50, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

That text was specifically written for the Featured Article description. It will only show up on the front page. -Ehm (talk) 12:55, 6 April 2016 (EDT)

Google Chrome Extension For tcrf

I was wondering if I could create a Google Chrome extension for TCRF. Would that be OK? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Balloon1009 (talk • contribs)

What specifically are you planning with that extension? Something like this extension for Wikipedia?--From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 04:30, 17 April 2016 (EDT)
Exactly like that. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Balloon1009 (talk • contribs)
I'm all up for it. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 20:38, 17 April 2016 (EDT)

Translation Image

The current image for "Needs Translation" is rather odd-looking.


The cactus in the background makes it look like the image has artifacting.

Would something like this work better? (Except with kanji in the textbox)

Possible Translation Image.png

Robotortoise (talk) 15:23, 17 May 2016 (EDT)

Something like this?
-- Cdic-sig.png ( Cdudeiscool | contribs ) 16:32, 3 August 2016 (EDT)
The current image is fine, thanks. --BMF54123 (talk) 02:43, 4 August 2016 (EDT)

Going off a very old rumor aboutApe Escape 3)

I have quite distinct memories of an old hacker buddy of mine exclaiming how Ape Escape 3 has old file names pertaining to the two protagonists in the last two games, as well as inaccesible, unused rooms in Kung Fu Street. I unfortunately have no way of testing this myself, nor do I know if it a reliable source. At the very least, there has to be major regional differences in the game. It practically screams Japanese. (If I did this wrong, please tell me. I'm extremely new here.)The preceding unsigned comment was added by EmberTheFlareon (talk • contribs)

The filename one can be checked by putting the disc on your computer; since PS2 discs are DVDs with a file header beyond the normal limit for one, you can peek in the files very easily. For the rooms, you can use a moonjump GS/CB code (if there's one) or some camera hack. As for the regional differences, you need discs from all the regions (Japan (NTSC-J), US (NTSC-U) and Europe (PAL)). -Phrossi (talk) 11:40, 18 May 2016 (EDT)

Sam and Max: The Devil's Toybox (Season 3)

So, the Nutrition Specs that are PS3 exclusive can actually be added to the PC version, though only in episode 1. https://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/19580 https://youtu.be/4mhy6uRb3cc

Edit: For using the specs on the Pudding Lincoln head in the subway, you recieve a blue card with a website link. The website no longer exists, unfortunately.

There is a slot on Max's wheel that in all other chapters goes unused. This is where the Nutrition Specs used to be. Perhaps it was planned for other chapters?

In addition, the voice saying 'Nutrition Specs' does not sound the same as the other psychic toys.

I will do some additional poking and prodding and see if I can create a page on the found information. The preceding unsigned comment was added by CrazyCerealMan (talk • contribs) 21:19, 2016 May 23

Site Oddities

Every time I try to connect with a DS or DSi Browser (Opera-based), the site IMMEDIATELY errors out with "The site refused the connection". Anyone have any clue what happened? Did someone DDOS with Opera or something? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yeniaul (talk • contribs)

The certificate for TCRF no longer accept DS or DSi connections through Opera. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 20:09, 23 June 2016 (EDT)
To expand on what Divingkataetheweirdo said, TCRF moved to the "Let's Encrypt" system of generating its TLS certificates. The Let's Encrypt TLS keys are unfortunately known not to work in the 3DS browser because Nintendo has not added the root certificate that it uses to the browser yet. This is a limitation of the 3DS browser, so unfortunately only Nintendo can fix this. -- Bast (talk) 05:01, 24 June 2016 (EDT)
And also the DS/i and Wii browsers due to no longer receiving updates from Nintendo. -Einstein95 (talk) 05:12, 24 June 2016 (EDT)
The site works on the New 3DS, I come on here through there all the time. It does tell you that the certificate is not secure, causing it to be 'http' instead of 'https'. You can even edit pages through there, I've done a good amount of editing on my 3DS. Due to the limited power of the 3DS, some pages can't load because there is too much. It displays .gif files really well for the most part. Unfortunately, audio files don't even show up at all. I only use it because I always have my 3DS with me, but it is definitely better to use a computer. --Nikki (talk) 08:52, 8 December 2017 (EST)

Sushi Cat - Must be added

Armor Games made a cute game called Sushi Cat. Should you Hack the Rom of all games to find unused stuff? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Game Sean GX (talk • contribs)

There's nothing to be found in Sushi Cat. I looked into it and found nothing unused there. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 14:30, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for adding info about Sushi Cat 1: Original.
Try to find stuff in Sushi Cat 1: Honeymoon, Sushi Cat 2: Original, Sushi Cat 2: Festival, Sushi Cat 3: Storyblock Creator (A.K.A April Fools), And Sushi Cat 3: Sushi Cat-a-pult. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Game Sean GX (talk • contribs)
You need to learn to find stuff yourself. We don't do requests (demands?) here. --BMF54123 (talk) 16:47, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
So please show me a link to the best Cheat Engine to find data.The preceding unsigned comment was added by Game Sean GX (talk • contribs)
Google it. -Einstein95 (talk) 08:34, 14 May 2017 (EDT)

Lego City Undercover Test areas

I used quickbms on game7.dat from the pc version The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shadowluigi (talk • contribs)

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Debug Menus in More SFC Dragon Ball Z Games?

So, this is kind of related, kind of not, but some many years ago, I was playing Super Butouden 2 and something I'd done... a custom Game Genie/PAR code or maybe just bad emulation... led to a debug menu not unlike the one in the third game.

I haven't tried accessing it, since, so I don't know how one would do so. I do remember that you could select Mr. Satan Hercule as a "playable" character... but, as expected, he just acts like a cutscene NPC.

I also remember finding a debug menu tucked away in Super Gokuden: Kakusei-Hen, at one point, but I never figured out how to access it without glitching or breaking the game. That one let to test various battles and cutscenes, among other things.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention that. Could be worth looking into, if someone's bored enough.

~ Joseph Lithius (Info|Chat|Edits) 18:52, 15 September 2017 (EDT)

There are a few other DBZ SNES games with debug menus, including those by (allegedly) TOSE. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 18:57, 15 September 2017 (EDT)

TCRF Discord Server?

I'm surprised no-one has thought of creating one yet. Communication would certainly become more efficient among members. Halfbit (talk) 16:48, 26 November 2017 (EST)

Except that we have. Quite a bit, actually. Ultimately, we're unsure as to whether or not to do it, mainly because it's somewhat harder to manage logs for, the obnoxious audio channel that we've considered turning off completely, and the fact it's more proprietary than IRC. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 16:54, 26 November 2017 (EST)
IDK if anybody has done it yet, but I made an unofficial server for TCRF as a "test run" of sorts. If it gets popular enough, then I'll eventually transfer ownership to BMF or any other admin of this site. For now, here's the invite link: https://discord.gg/r5AWRmn

--Shoopdahoop (talk) 11:55, 2 December 2017 (EST)

There are bots that can log messages on discord, though I have not tested any of them myself. All messages are saved and can be looked at again, but deleted messages are lost forever (unless you have a logging bot). --Luminar (talk) 12:19, 2 December 2017 (EST)
I got a logger bot set up. It works perfectly: http://i.imgs.fyi/img/20n6.jpg

--Shoopdahoop (talk) 14:16, 2 December 2017 (EST)

Also, we have a substantial IRC community and people go over to Discord b/c it's supposedly got more features (though it doesn't support as many platforms). It's also tougher to manage IRC and Discord chats, because we would have to synchronize between those two.--From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 14:57, 2 December 2017 (EST)

--There's also other problems to consider. SSRG has their Discord synched with their IRC. And it basically causes the IRC to be spammed with discord posts from the discord and over all it's just a visual mess. IMO it would be better to have one or the other, not both for that reason alone.Glisp (talk) 15:00, 2 December 2017 (EST)

Discord supports many platforms, I don't know which platform would you need that it does not support. Another thing to consider is that many people don't like IRC because it is too complicated for them, while Discord is easy to use. Even if you want to keep your IRC channel, you should consider having a Discord server too for people who do not want to use IRC. Managing a Discord server is much easier than you think it is, and I am pretty sure that there are people who would be happy to help running it (an example is me). Syncing them is not necessary in my opinion, but maybe if something important happens then someone should share it at the other place. --Luminar (talk) 15:28, 3 December 2017 (EST)
BSD-likes, such as OpenBSD, don't support Discord, as well as various other operating systems (mainly more obscure ones like the Amiga) and some of the older versions of OSes (like Windows XP and Mac OS X 10.4/10.6). As for IRC being difficult to use, that can be true because of the way different IRC clients handle basic commands and how heavily text-based it is. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 15:33, 3 December 2017 (EST)

reCAPTCHA v1 shutdown

Not sure where to put this, but reCAPTCHA v1 will not work after March 31, 2018. The site needs to update to reCAPTCHA v2 at g.co/recaptcha/upgrade as soon as possible so people can add links. Rjd1922 (talk) 15:21, 15 March 2018 (EDT)

Blocked ad?

Not sure where the right place to say this is but, I have ublock turned for this site, yet it still gives me a "If you've blocked our ad, please consider unblocking it." message at the top of the page. Is there anything I need to do further to fix this? --Jessietail (talk) 02:57, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

It seems to also turn off Project Wonderful ads altogether for some reason. Make sure it's whitelisted for this site. --From: divingkataetheweirdo (talk) 03:01, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
That worked, thanks. --Jessietail (talk) 03:04, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
Project Wonderful was down temporarily --Xk-sig.png Xkeeper (talk) 03:12, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

TCRF logo copyright

Not sure if this is the right place to put this, but the General Disclaimer says "Content published on this wiki, with the exception of copyrighted fair-use screenshots, sounds, etc., is licensed under the Creative Commons CC-BY 3.0 license", and i was wondering if this applies to the TCRF logo too? Or is it just the text on our pages that is released? Thanks. AdamP (talk) 18:54, 10 May 2018 (EDT)

Info on Tvtropes article.

Tvtropes has an article on cut game content (which it curiously refers to as having been "dummied out"). It has info that I feel would be very helpful on our main page, such as why developers leave such content in the files to begin with. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DummiedOut Skadooshbag (talk) 19:33, 19 October 2018 (EDT)

Featured article request

I was wondering if we could add Yume Nikki as a featured article, as we've basically covered all of its information? GreenToxic (talk) 15:50, 16 July 2019 (EDT)

Hong Kong 97

here is a the story of the game (grammar fixed)

The year 1997 has arrived. A herd of fuckin' ugly reds are rushing from the mainland. Crime rate skyrocket! Hong Kong is ruined! Therefore, the Hong Kong government called Bruce Lee's relative "Chin" for the massacre of the Reds. Chin is a killer machine. Wipe out all 1.2 billion of the red communists! However, in mainland China, there was a secret project in progress! A project to transform the deceased Tong Shaun Ping into an ultimate weapon! --PapercutsExist (talk) 23:01, 11 August 2019 (EDT)

TCRF's TLS support reminder

If nothing happens by March 2020, TCRF will become inaccessible (Firefox, Chrome). SatoMew (talk) 13:34, 1 October 2019 (EDT)

Can we get a dark mode on TCRF please!

Like seriously, most of the forums that are linked are dark, and switching back to TCRF burns my eyes. JumpybugRebound (talk) 20:41, 13 November 2019 (EST)

you can use this css file that i use! copy the text in https://tcrf.net/User:Qwertyuiop/common.css to https://tcrf.net/User:JumpybugRebound/common.css.
How exactly do you install it? There's nowhere to paste in the JumpyBug page, not even via inspect element. OlimarRocks 17:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
You put it on your version of the page, with your username in place of the other user's. Also, I've been working on updating the CSS, check it out here https://tcrf.net/User:Paynamia/common.css --Paynamia (talk) 05:07, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
http://github.com/TF2CutContentWiki/TCRFDark, if anyone is still looking for one. 👍 TF2CutContent 💬 ✏️ 19:40, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Monster Life

There was a game called Monster Life, made by Gameloft, which now, isn't on the Mobile Stores anymore, which wasn't covered yet. Can anyone access it? --FanOfYoshi (talk) 11:06, 15 February 2020 (EST)

Additionally, i've found a video, showing images, so that you know what i'm talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTd6QF2qT1U --FanOfYoshi (talk) 11:14, 15 February 2020 (EST)
Since we never covered it, we'll probably never know the unused feature. --FanOfYoshi (talk) 04:49, 17 February 2020 (EST)

What is the easiest way to find unused content in ios games?

You mention the sega research guide but why not do the same for the ios? you can't go on tile layer pro and find unused content in ios games there so what's the easiest way to find unused content in ios games? --Unused999 (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2020 (EST)

We can easily do the same and if someone wants to write a help document for iOS, they can go ahead and do it. The Sega research guide appears to be written like an example and would mostly apply for older consoles. --From: CounterDiving (talk) 15:51, 15 February 2020 (EST)
Oh i want to find unused content in don't let the pigeon run this app, I looked at the finding content page and no way of finding content in iOS games mentioned in here. --Unused999 (talk) 21:15, 19 February 2020 (EST)
Keep in mind though, as you might not find anything unused. --qwerty (talk) 23:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

New Platform: DVD

I know what you're saying, DVD isn't a gaming system, but have you heard of these DVD Games like B Equal's Madagascar Trivia game? These aren't just movie files. they are interactive. well some of them just are movie files but still considered games. Maybe they are some unused files left.--Unused999 (talk) 12:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

DVD had various types of interactive game. There's the AnimePlay line of visual novels. Some demos run on Xbox. Nuon was a DVD based platform with exclusive titles like Tempest 3000. More discussion is likely needed to decide what belongs here. Theclaw (talk) 01:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
I would decide the games like on the Madagascar DVD, but what would you decide? --Unused999 (talk) 23:29, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Although they are games, i think these games should belong in misc data digs, not TCRF. --Unused999 (talk) 02:11, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Unused content that was eventually made used

There have been several Nintendo-published games over the past few years that purposefully withheld content from the initial release in order to introduce it in "free DLC" updates, such as Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Super Mario Odyssey, and Mario Tennis Aces. From what I've seen, TCRF editors remove documentation of unused data when it eventually becomes used, but I think it's useful to document these progressions. This includes data on the disc/cart that was unused on release, or data introduced in updates that was unused until a later date (Smash 4). The preceding unsigned comment was added by DangItBobby (talk • contribs)

I agree. If it isn't in its own section, then it should at least be noted in the revisional differences. --Hiccup (talk) 09:31, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

"Oddities" category

I noticed that a lot of articles have "oddities" sections. Does anyone else think that there should be a category for that along with all of the other page content descriptors? (i.e. "This game has unused areas", "This game has unused graphics", etc.) I don't really have a strong opinion, but I think it would be neat. --DoubleDenial (talk) 01:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

making a article on mcd (Minecraft dungeons)

e --BrewmasterLo (talk)

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Rescue Team DX Has Super Mystery Dungeon Leftovers


So I checked out the Mystery Dungeon Reddit, and I saw this post. And it turns out Riolu has his Super Mystery Dungeon Scarf left in the game, the way you basically do it is with a Starter Modifier The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nidoking (talk • contribs)

Can Scratch have a page?

Mainly the offline editors, for example 1.4 has a couple of sounds that later got removed in 2.0. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nidoking (talk • contribs)

Games made with Scratch can have a page on TCRF but pages of Scratch itself and the Scratch Editors belong on Misc Data Digs --Unused999 (talk) 18:15, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon Legends: Arceus got leaked 8 days before offical release

Oh boy, a another prototype game that got mistakenly leaked to the public before release. So far it does have some things that may get fixed after the game comes out, once the game comes out. We should make a page about the prototype. Nidoking (talk) 23:43, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Is it actually a prototype, or rather the gold version of the game (the build that was finalized to ship on launch day cartridges) without any day updates, like a day 1 patch? The latter seems much more likely, unless this happens to be something other then "some vendor broke street date and then someone bought the game and dumped it". -- Luna (talk) 05:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Pokémon Learning League

Not sure if this would have a page, but it is a Adobe Flash web series that has interactive gameplay elements (Basically answering questions) that is for students that was created back in 2006. While checking around the files some of the episodes, there is some off-screen graphics that are cropped off due to the game's flash canvas size. Nidoking (talk) 12:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Are we allowed to compare changes from the original game to the remaster/remake

Unless the gameplay or story changed entirely.

For example in Conker's Live And Reloaded, Conker wears a army uniform including the army helmet while in the original he just wears a army helmet, and the cutscene where the squirrel gets electrocuted on the electric chair has been extended further with more gore added to it. -Nidoking (talk) 20:44, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

What is the difference between Prototype and Prerelease?

So I have been confusing the 2 lately, is there any difference? Oh and it is happy birthday tcrf, this wiki just became a teen! Right? ...That was awful CZ2746isback (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Prototype - Playable development builds, freely and publicly available to anyone.
Prerelease - Development screenshots and materials shared by developers, journalists in magazines and the like, not a playable build.
Development - Source code/assets and files from the game itself leaked or released by developers. –Edness (talk) 16:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! CZ2746isback (talk) 12:54, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Will The Cutting Room Floor ever gonna update to MediaWiki 1.39?

I noticed that TCRF is using an older version of MediaWiki, will TCRF update to MediaWiki 1.39, like other wikis that are using MediaWiki, like Wikipedia, Miraheze or the MediaWiki website itself? - Farmer Cars (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Did You Knows

Will there be more Did You Knows? It's been the same 10 rows for ages now. L337 KR3W (talk) 14:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I think the DYK's are just randomly picked from a list of them that the admins just randomly swap out - MalaBG (talk) 14:15, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Missing things in Pizza Tower page.

So some of the found things in Pizza Tower that are unused aren't on the site, and some are very interesting, Most of the scrapped things are found in the Pizza Tower Wiki, along with sprites for the unused Meteor Transformation. If the community can work on the page a little more, that'd be awesome. The preceding unsigned comment was added by LukeMSonic (talk • contribs) 19:49, 2023 June 4

Thanks for letting us know this, but please post this on the pizza tower page instead of Here :) The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gametram (talk • contribs) 15:35, 2023 June 6

Did you know quote

One of the did you know quotes "that this website's prickly mascot was originally intended to appear in Super Mario 64?" is incorrect. The mascot is from a placeholder graphic in the NES version of Super Mario Bros. 2 files, not Super Mario 64's. --Bloondom (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2023 (EST)

No, that's not referring to the site's favicon, but rather the cactus icon (keyword: prickly mascot) that appears on pretty much every site-wide messagebox template (Todo, Investigate, Replaceimage etc.) which does originate from Super Mario 64. –Edness (talk) 08:25, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Can we make prerelease pages for games in our profile if the game doesn't have a page in the TCRF yet?

There's a rule about not making prerelease pages for games that don't exist on TCRF yet, but what about on profiles? It would be a page of the profile, not the non existent game page then. Unused999 (talk) 04:02, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "on profiles", but you can create articles in your namespace and then move them to regular pages when appropriate. ReyVGM (talk) 03:58, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Template suggestion

There are a handful of prototype ROMs out there where, controversially, the only copy available is hacked up for release on reproduction cartridges. Examples of this include Socks the Cat Rocks the Hill, Hoppin Mad, and the "prototype" of Action 52, among others. Would it be possible to add a notice template (similar to the general prototype template) to indicate such games/hacks? I believe this would be useful from a historical perspective; and would make it easier to document things that could just be junk put there by the hackers, and not part of the actual prototype (e.g. the copyrights being changed).

Template wording could be something along the lines of "This game, while a prototype, was hacked for a homebrew/scene release. The unaltered ROM is unavailable; as such, some documented contents may not reflect the original prototype." Ireallydontcare123456789 (talk) 22:50, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Ireallydontcare123456789

Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Nick arcade prototype leftovers

In the page for the Sonic the hedgehog 2 Nick arcade prototype, the sub page leftovers has nearly nothing in it execpt for two sprites when there should be more. So im asking for someone to put more in the page aswell as the sprites. Fleetway 1 (talk) 03:15, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

About Amateur Games

There is a section on the rules page that mentions amateur games. As I have understood it, if I'm not mistaken, not every single amateur game ever released would be allowed to be covered on this site, unless the game is fairly well known or has had some sort of coverage online.

What's the general stance over amateur games besides the points already outlined in the rules? Would the rule about fan games requiring admin approval also apply? Would be nice to have some clarification on where the limit of covering amateur games goes, what is allowed and what isn't, and so on. ConkerGuru (talk) 20:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

The audio player bugs out a bit

It plays fine on the first sound play, but if you try to play the same sound again, it'll try to play it twice. That's no good! /ref Hexapoly (talk) 11:23, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too. It doesn't seem to affect songs, just sound effects. For some reason the bug only exists on this website (for my computer, anyway). Is there a way to fix it? I wouldn't be able to because I don't know anything about fixing stuff like this. -- FanOfRosalina2007 (talk) 19:00, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Jo Li's "Fangame" Template: The Discussion

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

Back in September of 2023, I began work on a site template specifically for labeling fan-made games. (It's okay; they're legal with permission, now.) For the most part, I was just kind of dithering about to see if I could actually make something functional. When I managed to actually get it working more-or-less how I wanted it to, I went ahead and added it to a couple of pages I've put a lot of work into, replacing a "mock-up" or fake template I'd put there, previously.

So, one day a while later... I someone suggested that I toss my mostly-functional, -- but still "private" -- template onto a couple more fan game pages. I was both surprised and kind of flattered by this. When I noticed that some of these pages had actually been on the wiki before the rules about fan games and ROM hacks were made official, I modified the template further, adding a "nebulous" option, bringing the template closer to my ideal level of completion. To my continued surprise, the template now finds itself in use on 10 different pages across the wiki -- this time, without my direct intervention. And, well... it kind of puts me into an odd position.

You might be wondering what the problem is. Well, another user put it nicely: "normal" users like me (ie, non-admins, non-mods) probably shouldn't be adding unofficial or "private" templates to main space pages, no matter how helpful or functional they may be. I've been putting this off for a long while because I'm not 100% satisfied with how the template works and I'm not clever enough with Wikicode to get it where I, personally, want it. However, given its "official-unofficial" use throughout the wiki, I'd like to ask...

  • Users:
Is the template easy to use and are the instructions clear? Or, should I try and simplify it further? It can, after all, still be used without linking to a "permission source".
(Yes, I know the instructions say to use {{Fangame}} instead of my personal page URL right now. "Fangame" is the proposed template page.)
  • Administration:
Is the template functional enough to be considered for promotion to "official" status? Or, should I look into trying to (have someone) overhaul it?

I look forward to your replies. Thank you for your time.

~ Jo Li (U, T, C) 12:20, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi! I'm a "normal" user, not an admin, so I'll be putting in my opinion for the question for "normal" users. I think this is a good idea, considering that some people might not know enough about video games to distinguish fangames from normal video games. This template looks good and it gets the point across. One thing I 'd say about the instructions is that I personally am confused about them, although I'll admit that I'm very new to coding stuff and templates in general baffle me. I definitely think you should get permission from an administrator to use your template before it's posted too much on the wiki, as that would be the right thing to do. It's a very good idea though, and I think you should take steps to be able to use it more! I vote for you to finalize and approve the template! -- FanOfRosalina2007 (talk) 14:37, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

umm christmas theme???

sonic 3 ice cap zone act 2

final ice cap act 2 layout

no the one from the prototype of sonic 3

proto ice cap act 2 layout

The preceding unsigned comment was added by SpareEnderboy (talk • contribs) 23:51, 24 December 2023‎

sm64 beta ebay listing??

ok so i found this weird ebay listing while looking for a copy of sm64 and while im guessing it might* be a normal copy what i saw for the box was kind of weird for one it was a players choice copy with i think a more transparent n64 only slide? idk but the main thing that intrests me is the back of the box. it has BETA SCREENSHOTS! so maybe this is a early copy? if so then itd be pretty weird to already be a players choice cart.

this is the ebay auction and it ends in like 24 hours or something. it also says "CIB" which idk means but whaaaaaaatevr. so this is speculation and idk if its an actual beta or alpha or sum stuff but i hope it is! the auction


That is not a prototype. Sorry. --Rachel Mae (talk) 11:24, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Puyo Pop Baba Bing

While I was reading the page for "Puyo Pop (GBA)", it says that supposedly, when you set a Japanese copy of the game to the English language, the losing message says "BABA BING". I find it rather ridiculous that you could just say that without including an image. I couldn't find any such image online, so I bit the bullet and took the screenshot myself:


I request that this be added to the page. Platter (talk) 18:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Why not add it yourself? Just asking. --L337 KR3W (talk) 19:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, please retake and upload the screenshot in native resolution, without a filter. --Mattrizzle (talk) 19:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Got it covered~
~ Jo Li (U, T, C) 18:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)